There's no reason a standalone application can't be a web app.  In
fact I've done one at work using python (
http://developer.spikesource.com/wiki/index.php/Projects:sam ).  Add a
little AJAX for GUI goodness, compile it into an exe for windows folks
(for mac, linux geeks it'll run out of the box). (~1Meg for the
complete windows app <200kb for linux/mac). Put it on a keydrive, and
you are good to go, it'll run on any machine and serve pages to the
internet.....

matt


On 1/10/06, Jay Askren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I originally thought about creating a web based system.  In my former life I
> was a web developer.  I think ideally something like this could be added to
> the church website for each ward, but I don't see that happening anytime
> soon.  I chose not to make this a web application for several reasons:
>
> 1.  Security
> This is my biggest concern.  If someone would hack into the application or
> the server, this would be very bad publicity for the ward and the church in
> general.   I would imagine it could cause many to go inactive.  I plan to
> store names of all family members, email addresses, phone numbers,
> addresses, birthdates, and membership numbers.  I could see that being a big
> problem if someone hacked into the system.  This is probably a bigger
> concern since I would be using a free server.
>
> 2.  I don't know that the church would be ok with it.
> Several years ago, lots of wards were putting up ward websites, and the
> church sent out a letter asking all wards to take their websites down.  They
> then of course created the ward websites on the church websites.  I would
> imagine they could have a problem with creating and storing all of this
> information on the web namely for security reasons.
>
> 3.  Administration
> If we create a web application, we would also need someone who can do basic
> administration stuff, like redeploy the application when it goes down and
> stuff like that.  That means if I move, either we find someone else to do it
> in the ward to do basic admin stuff, or the emergency preparedness program
> dies.  If they have a simple application, practically anyone can use it who
> can use a computer.
>
> 4.  Without internet access, the app can't be used.
> Since our church building doesn't have internet access, people couldn't use
> the application on the church computer.  Also, if a natural disaster
> happened, it seems highly likely that internet access would be down.  But
> anyone with a laptop could use the application still.  This though is
> probably not a huge issue.
>
>
> 5.  Web hosting generally cost money
> It is true that there are many websites which offer free web hosting, but
> they generally don't offer web application hosting.  That generally cost
> money.  Now this isn't as big an issue as some of my other points, because
> there is:
> http://www.mycgiserver.com/
> Again though, when I move I would have to train someone else how to use the
> webserver and if the company runs the server runs out of money, we are out
> of luck.
>
>
>
> Anyway, so for all of those reasons I felt it would be better to make a
> standalone application.  Here's a prototype I have so far:
>
> http://jay.askren.net/emergency/
>
> I'm working on converting it to Java.  If it's something that your ward
> would like to use, let me know.  I hope to get done with the data entry part
> some time in Februrary.
>
>
> Jay
>
>
>
>
> On 1/10/06, Bryan Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 1/9/06, Jay Askren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > In our ward I've been asked to put together a little database to store
> > > Emergency Preparedness information such as who has a truck, who has a
> > > generator, who knows CPR or First Aid, etc.  It will be a Java
> application
> > > and import data directly from MLS.  I was wondering if this application
> > > would be useful for anyone else.  I also was wondering if anyone else
> would
> > > be interested in helping to develop it.
> >
> > Is there any reason something like this couldn't be web-based so
> > everyone can have convenient, yet still secure, access to it?
> >
> > Bryan
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