A scout program would be a great idea. Basing it using a web interface is also a great idea. Hopefully the program would also be setup to track the awards the adults need to be working on , their training, etc.
As I understand the Church's position it is there are to be no web sites other than lds.org representing the Church. This does not mean using http://127.0.0.1/scout_tracking_tool is forbidden. The ability to connect remotely is not limited to web based applications - the windows desktop, X, KDE ,gnome, MacOSX, etc can all be connected to remotely - if the network and machine are configured to permit it. Web based applications - when written and carefully managed are neither less nor more secure than desktop programs. The web interface is simply a different api set than the various desktops that are available. There are many desktop programs which when carefully examined are not secure. The security requirement must be written with security as part of the program foundation rather than as some assumption based on other elements providing the security. I would love to see a web based open source scout/YM/YW application program. If the day ever comes where remote connections to Church applications are permitted it will be a great day. Doing a http://www.lds.org/myward/mls/ymyw_tracking would be excellent. In the interm being able to do a http://127.0.0.1/mls/ymyw_tracking would be excellent compared to the resources available today. Another way could be to ssh to a site , then run a X based browser such as konqueror or mozilla and then http://lds.org/mls/ymyw_tracking. The site could be ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] . The requirements to keep all mls/youth/??? data off the internet would be meet due to ssh. The myaccount would be manageable - simply check your recommend - there are 2 numbers which could be used to control access for each member. Releasing the program as open source would not cause a security breach since access to the program nor the data the program would use would not be available without the required ssh account. The program would still be web based as access to anyone wishing to use it stand alone - such as the jayees sponsoring the scout troop I was a member of many years ago. They would simply setup a private LOCAL server and access it as http://127.0.0.1/scout/_tracking_tool . THe data 127.0.0.1 remains behind the firewall no data should leak and the only data in the program is what is entered locally. have a great day oscar The point is to strengthen the testimony of those involved in the various programs. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Steven H. McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I can appreciate all the fervor for a web-based app. However, > > 1) The church has said no websites. You can't get away with making the > "this is scouting and that is the church" distinction, anymore. > > 2) It is a legal problem to start posting information about minor children > to the Internet. That would have to be decided at Church HQ and not by the > local units. They don't even allow information to be posted into Family > Search about living people, they just insert a "LIVING" placeholder. Being > involved with security professionally, I would not give my consent. This is > a huge pitfall -- despite good intentions -- it would be wise not to fall > into it. > > Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Hanks > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 9:04 AM > To: LDS Open Source Software > Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Scout Tracking > > On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Tom Welch wrote: > > > Web-based would be great, but with the church's policy on non-official > websites, where does that put the local unit that would want to install > and use such a web-based app? > > -- Dan > > > _______________________________________________ > Ldsoss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss _______________________________________________ Ldsoss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
