On Friday 07 July 2006 8:05 am, Steven H. McCown wrote: > Your code (the snippet that I saw) looks fine, your tools sound, but you > seem to not be concerned with marketing / user aspects. > correct - the code is GPL . If someone want to use it great, if not ok. It may never compete with troop master but that is not the goal.
> Most that use Linux will have MySQL, Postgres, PHP, and Apache. However, > that is still less than 10% of the home user market (real computer geeks > aside). While the server market has a much higher Linux adoption rate, the > home PC market does not. Very few church buildings do not run Linux as > they need to run MIS and such. Very few buildings have open internet > connections, as well. > correct - I'm not writing the code for todays environment. Things change. By the time verison 1.0 is out the environment will have changed. > So who is your customer? If you're just doing this for your own purposes > or for a few other interested people, then you're on the right track. > me, folks I support, anyone who wants to use the code > If you want this to be adopted as a widely-used program for Scouting, then > you've put up some technological barriers that will preclude interested > users from participating. > I write for the environment I have. If someone wants to do a conversion to another environment I have no problem with that. > The most successful and widely used apps (by home users) are Windows apps > with an easy installation process. Also, standalone executable apps are > predominant in this world. Java is kind of borderline, but the JRE can be > insulated from the user. Users have chosen compiled .exe's, because they > don't want to maintain an interpretive environment -- unless it's really > insulated and automatically updated. Users nearly always choose simple > over better -- think WinZip over 7-Zip (which I like, btw). > > The thread describing Windows users as somewhat half-witted was abrasive, > but grounded in reality. Windows users just their apps to work -- they > don't want to 'fiddle with it'. They don't care what language or tech is > used to create an app, rather they just want to install it and forget about > it and they don't want to have to maintain other tools like Perl or Python. > The JRE seems to have crossed that barrier for other reasons. > > ***I am not criticizing technology or anyone's preference.*** > > I'm only criticizing a bit so that you don't get done and have everyone > still having to pay for Scout tracking software, because they wanted a > familiar and simple platform/environment. > > The question that I'm driving at is whether you're architecting towards a > technological solution that you prefer (or that you consider better) or a > user-required solution that end users are likely to use .....? The planned user interface is web based. If someone will only use windows, mac, solaris, ??? - no problem - that is why I choose a web based interface. I want to separate the ui from backend - with web I can do that. The admin problem is more intense - that is why I choose linux over all the other options. The mass market is not what I am targeting for. However it can be run there - the design should scale up to a cluster or down to a stand alone. oscar > > Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oscar Schultz > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:03 PM > To: LDS Open Source Software > Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Scout Tracking > > ... > My plan is to use either MySQL or PostGRES, php, apache, and linux with a > web interface. > ... > > > _______________________________________________ > Ldsoss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss _______________________________________________ Ldsoss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
