Dear LDS Open Source Software list and Haws Genealogy list,

Excellent words below, Frank.

I'm 40.  Based on the discussion at a Haws family genealogy meeting
yesterday (Thanksgiving Day), I have the following thoughts to share:

phpGedView provides much of what we would like to eventually see at a church
site.  We foresee a day when we would move our central family tree work to a
church sponsored site.  But for that day to arrive, we would want to see the
following elements in place:

-A new identity linked database (as is in development) where 15 submitted
instances of Parley P. Pratt can be linked as the same identity while
keeping their respective research integrities as individual GEDCOMs.  (A
very nice possible feature for this would be the ability for users or the
software to judge the "quality" of the respective instances or GEDCOMs.)

-Full preservation of sources, notes, and miscellaneous GEDCOM tags

-Full preservation of multimedia references (files on disk outside of
GEDCOM) and provision of multimedia upload space.

-Online account registration, direct database editing, and a phpGedview-like
spectrum of GEDCOM (family tree) privileges (administer, accept edits, edit,
view) including relationship-based privacy for large GEDCOMs.

-GEDCOM import and export functions

In short, we would hope the church would provide something that looks very
much like an identity-linked version of a phpGedView hosting service.

--
Tom Haws 480-201-5476
Have a nice day.

On 11/22/06, Frank Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: "Gordon Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gordon,

I have been volunteering for several years at the Ogden Regional
Family History Center.  We see all types of patrons who use the FS
website regularly.  One of the dichotomies of getting programmers for
working on genealogy programs is that most of them are young, under 40
- many under 30, and although they are very good programmers they know
nearly nothing about actually doing genealogy.  Most have never used
PAF for example, or the FS site.

On the other hand we have older people, over 40, who are very
experienced in all the different programs to get their work done but
they know nothing about the inner workings of the programs themselves.
What is needed is a combination of the two. Since it's probably not
possible for an older experienced genealogist to learn programming,
it's best to find younger hot-shot programmers who have been doing
their own genealogy for some time.

Our patrons regularly use PAF, PAF Insight, Legacy, FamilySearch, the
old DOS version of Family Search, TempleReady, Ancestry.com, RootsWeb,
besides various utilities such as GenViewer and FamilySearcher.  Often
they will use most of these in the same session.

Someone here wrote that what is needed is a game-type program that
would lure the user to do genealogy.  If a person hates the work so
much then nothing will lure them in no matter how exciting.  Those who
finally get converted to the work want programs that work well and
will do what they are supposed to do.  A reasonably attractive UI is
sufficient but with an easy flow of logic to the steps and commands.

Because the majority of people who actually do genealogy are a little
older they suffer from vision problems.  This makes larger text very
high on their wish lists.  We often set our monitors to 800 x 600 to
make the text readable. Programmers often use large screens with high
resolution to create their work without realizing others won't be
using that same equipment.  I have been an engineer for many years and
my 21 inch monitor is set at 1280 x 1064 but I couldn't ask a patron
to look at my screen.

Younger programmers are anxious to create a "really cool" interface
without running it past their parents or grandparents.  Maybe just
good and plain is what is needed.

Just my $.02 worth.

Best regards,

Frank Reid


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