Vonage signed a deal with VoIP inc to carry their traffic. The terms are not disclosed, but the deal is not
completed yet either. As for the patent violations, the deal does not get them off the hook, and it is not
a trivial exercise to reroute a sizable customer base through someone else's network, especially if you
have not done sufficient testing for load balancing, inter and intra lata connections, PSTN termination
and numbers of other issues that quick paper only makes worse, long before it gets better. Also, the
deal still does not get Vonage out of their shareholder lawsuits (ongoing), and the PUC suits filed in
Michigan, Minn, and NY.

The problem Vonage has as of today, is they won a stay of the shut down injunction, but Verizon
got one through on Vonage signing up new customers. Sprint is also gunning to shut them down and
get their due for patent violation as well, so it's big chickens hitting the coop, not so much whining in
court.

Vonage has, at last count 2.2m customers, with a loss of 50,000 per month average. This is the
Steve Case business model (can I sign them up faster than they leave). Preventing them from adding
new customers will not kill them off quickly, but it will kill them off within 18 months.

click and dial is fun doodah, but it will be more useful for those services that will still be here this time
next year.

Steven H. McCown wrote:
Vonage is in for a rough ride, but large companies don't seem to go under so
easily.  They always seem to pull a rabbit out of their hat.  RIM
(Blackberry) is a prime example.  Also, courts don't seem to be willing to
put so many people out, regardless of the acts of the corporation.  In the
worst case, Vonage customers would have become Verizon customers.

In any case, the other day, Vonage signed a deal to keep themselves in
business
(http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070402-vonage-hangs-up-on-verizon-pa
tent-infringement-with-new-agreement.html).   

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Penrod
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 5:21 PM
To: LDS Open Source Software
Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Some things you guys might be interested in

Scott,

I'd wait on the Vonage script. If my sources are correct, and the news
reports tend to bear them out, Vonage may not be much longer for
the business world.

Instead, I would suggest for consideration instead a script for Skype,
or Packet8, or Sun Rocket.

...Paul

Scott Barber wrote:
  
For your consideration: I've thrown together a greasemonkey script
(Firefox w/ Greasemonkey plugin) that links the ward web membership
directory to google maps.
http://scott.barberfam.com/wp/2007/0...picy-ward-web/

I'm excited about the greasemonkey script I wrote as it opens the door
to other cool hacks. I'm working on a vonage "click to call" script
next for lds.org. You guys have any other ideas for cool greasemonkey
scripts?

Also - a couple of friends of mine have thrown together a cool site:
http://ifyeareprepared.org/about

Thanks,
Scott Barber
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