I am raising the issues with ELC members.  Let's see what
the responses will be.

Thanks.
Bao

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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:33:04 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: FW: [Leaf-devel] Fwd: ELC open source project membership (fwd)


I apologize if this has already been discussed and decided.

I am forwarding the following which has been also sent to
the elc-general list.  I am on the LEAF mailing list.  You
may know LEAF (Linux Emebedded Appliance Firewall,
http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf/) better by its parent
name, the Linux Router Project or LRP 
(http://www.linuxrouter.org/).

The question was raised there about the inclusion of
open-source projects in the ELC roster.  Many of us probably
will appear as NC members.  But we think certain mature and
succesful open-source projects should be recognized by ELC.

The following are just some of the thoughts floating around
in the LEAF project.

Best regards.
Bao

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 4:53 PM
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Subject: [Leaf-devel] Fwd: ELC open source project membership


Everyone,
I just sent this message to the Embedded Linux Consortium elc-general list.
Hopefully, they will implement some of my suggestions. Comments?


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>From: Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: ELC open source project membership
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>Problem:
>Current bylaws effectively exclude open source embedded Linux projects
>from joining the ELC. Open Source Projects don't generate revenue. They
>may garner donations and sponsors, but they don't generate money like a
>company does. The $1000 dollar CA membership is beyond the reach of almost
>all projects. To demonstrate the problem take a look at the current CA
>members and tally the number of projects. NC membership isn't a solution
>either, because of the single person rule.
>
>Short term proposals:
>Encourage NC members to create affiliate pages at their project with the
>ELC Member logo. The text accompanying the logo would indicate which
>project developers are members of the ELC. I believe this doesn't violate
>the current ELC rules.
>
>Facilitate corporate sponsorship/donation of an "ELC NC Member" booth at
>conferences. This will allow multiple projects to exhibit their software
>without diluting the main ELC booth's purpose. This also avoids the ELC
>footing the bill for the booth. I believe this is similar to what happens
>with Debian and the Open Source pavilion areas at current conferences.
>
>Long term proposal:
>Create a new member category for open source embedded Linux projects.
>I recommend that barrier to entry for the new category be higher than the
>current NC membership, but significantly lower than the CA membership.
>Waivers should be allowed for projects that are significant contributors
>to the advancement of embedded Linux solutions.
>
>Your suggestions and comments are welcome. Thanks for taking the time to
>read this.
>
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