On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Ray Olszewski wrote:

> 1. Is incorporating a "diagnostics" script in into each LEAF distribution a
> good idea? Probably (as long as it doesn't get so big as to cause problems
> with fitting on a floppy).

If we were going with a method that provides a separate disk image for
diagnostics, this wouldn't be a problem. However, while the idea of a
separate image is good, I don't think it's a way we want to go simply
because it WILL confuse the users who need it most (at least, without
reworking stuff so that it's a keypress or two to mount the new disk).

> 2. What should the FAQ tell users about collecting troubleshooting data?
> Well, the discussion makes it clear that a *standard* script that works
> across all LEAF variants is either impractical or complicated (probably just
> complicated). In any case, the FAQ itself can't reasonably provide such a
> script. So I'd suggest the FAQ retain the list of commands to use, and it
> can incorporate references to scripts when they actually exist. But ... it
> should always include the actual commands, because that is part of the
> teaching role the FAQ can serve, helping the user learn how to troubleshoot
> his or her own systems, not *just* how to gather data for us to look at.

I have to agree with this wholeheartedly. Not only do the various LEAF
distros serve their intended purpose, but for more than one person (myself
included) it also serves as an intro-to-Linux, giving a feel for how the
basic system should work. If we DON'T leave those commands in there, then
it will just frustrate the users who're trying to learn. (Yes, they could
just open up the script, but I know *I* got dizzy the first time I looked
at shell script....)

It sounds to me like the best solution would be to include links to
scripts for those individuals who get dizzy around command lines
somewhere after the list of commands to get the info manually. =)

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