Jacques,

Thanks for the sanity check. In retrospect, it makes sense, but it would
have been nice if the UML folks had this little fact documented a bit more
clearly. Perhaps it was and I just missed it. Are there plans for an updated
Bering-UML or will that be after rc4 is released.

Respectfully,
Eric



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Le Mardi 10 Septembre 2002 08:01, Eric B Kiser a écrit :
> Allrighty,
>
> Here is what I have put together. Some of which is just an educated guess.
>
> I was using an older version of uml_utilities which worked fine with the
> slink file system and the 2.4.18-21 kernel. However, it did not work with
> either the 2.4.18-21 or 2.4.18-45 kernels when combined with the bering
> file system. This was tested with both my bering 1.0-rc2 and my bering
> 1.0-rc3 and both of these tested against both the -21 and -45 kernels. It
> also did not work when combined with Brad's bering 1.0-rc3 file system. To
> get more in depth I also used Brad's start up script, 2.4.18-45 kernel,
and
> initrd.lrp. To take it a step forward I swapped in and out my start up
> script, my kernels, my file systems, and initrd.lrp. All to no success. I
> worked on this for hours and am pretty sure I have used every possible
> combination.
>
> Next, I updated to the most recent uml_utilities released just a few days
> ago on 2002-09-06. I found that I could only get the UML bering file
system
> to come up with the 2.4.28-21 kernel. Brad however is able to use the
> 2.4.28-45 kernel but he is also using uml_utilities dated 2002-07-29. My
> original uml_utilities was even older than this.
>
> So here is my final recommendation...
>
> bering 1.0-rc3 file system
>       +
> kernel 2.4.18-21
>       +
> uml_utilities_20020906.tar.bz2
>
>       or use...
>
> bering 1.0-rc3 file system
>       +
> kernel 2.4.18-45
>       +
> uml_utilities_20020729.tar.bz2
>
> If anyone can confirm interactions that counter what I have just tested
> please let me know. For now I am going to stick with the most recent
> uml_utilities and use the 2,4,18-21 kernel until the bering crew releases
> an update.

Eric:
There is indeed a link between the version of uml_utilities and the version
of the UML patch you are using. New functionnalities added by more recent
version of UML need recent version of uml_utilities. This is not clearly
documented in the UML web site and I should also made that point clearer in
my doc.
The trick is to find when the UML patch you are using was released and find
the closest release of uml_utilities
The UML patch list is here:
http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/dl-2.4-patches-sf.html
For example patch 45 was released July  25th
The uml_utilities releases are here:
http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/dl-tools-sf.html
>From this list it appears that you should use the 20020721 version. More
recent version might work as well. No guarantee...

Also a very important point  is to start your virtual machine with xterm and
nothing else (aterm, xrvt and the many variant that are existing). So xterm
must be installed on your host.

Hope that help.  But it's true that UML can sometime be a bit tricky...

Jacques


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