Hi Paul, Ron,

> One of the things I always bitch about here (and unfortunately don't
> help enough with) is improving on exactly this thing -- the packaging and
> installation of B-U along with the dev environment.
>
> If you feel the same way, it would be totally cool if you would be
> willing to take some time and look at the updates to B-U and shorewall
> since the last time you looked, and consider adding your effort to the
> existing distribution.  I don't think the goals of the projects are
> dissimilar, I just think that the priorities are not.  With someone
> actually spending real time working on adapting B-U to your target
> audience (e.g. yourself and any others who jump on your bandwagon as soon
> as they see how cool the work is that you're doing), you'll be able to
> focus on QoS and UI issues rather than that plus all the other stuff of
> building your own special distribution as a fork.
>

I totally agree with that. The new config system in B-U makes it possible
to easily create images for specific function and/or hardware, there is
indeed not much priority in actually doing that. There are some documents
added with a few examples, like VOIP and NAS/SAN:
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/bucu-voip.html
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/bucu-nas.html
and there is also nice webconfig framework which has a lot of potential,
but not much focus.

Creating an image for specific function and hardware is not much more than
creating a list of needed packages and custom moddb and configdb packages
with the right modules and config changes. With only that you can create
any kind of appliance with minimal effort. Paul did a lot of work in the
config system, so he's not exactly right with "don't help enough with" ;)

So all ingredients are available and it would be great if someone could
focus on UI and QOS issues, with a preference to no re-invent the wheel
but also look how to improve current projects, like QOS in shorewall.

Configuring a router/firewall or any other appliance is and will never be
"easy", you always need to know what you are doing. But having a good UI
and
convenient installation is a big pre.

> Best of luck either way,
>
>
> Paul
>
Eric


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