Am Samstag, 28. Juni 2014, 07:08:53 schrieb Mike Noyes: > On 06/27/2014 10:42 AM, kp kirchdoerfer wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 25. Juni 2014, 12:21:02 schrieb Mike Noyes: > >> On 06/25/2014 10:47 AM, Yves Blusseau wrote: > >>> Le 25 juin 2014 à 15:45, Mike Noyes <mhno...@users.sourceforge.net> a > > > > écrit : > >>>> On 06/25/2014 12:40 AM, Yves Blusseau wrote: > >>>>> <snip> > >>>>> Mike can you export the old Mediawiki somewhere else, so i can > >>>>> retrieve > >>>>> it and put online on my mediawiki to see the differences ?>> > >>>> > >>>> Yves, > >>>> Do you have the ability to setup Mediawiki locally? We have a backup > >>>> available in our shell space on SourceForge. I can archive that, and > >>>> send it to you. > >>> > >>> Yes i have several virtual machines with the latest version of > >>> mediawiki. > >>> So if we can send me the archive i can restore the mediawiki. > >>> Afterwards, > >>> what do you want to do ? We can use it and export to a different format > >>> and import it on sourceforge. I have also a gollum wiki (the github > >>> wiki) > >>> if we want to use other wiki language like markdown, … All suggestions > >>> are welcome. > >> > >> Yves, > >> I'll try to get the archive to you this week. I'd prefer we work with > >> the SF Allura wiki, so I recommend we output to static html. I want to > >> setup Drupal on the shell to replace our aging phpWebsite installation. > >> The less we have on the shell, the less one of us must maintain. > > > > Mike; > > > > I hav ethe impression the Allura replacements are inferior to the hosted > > apps and cause a lot of (re)work. > > > > I'd like to see drupal replacing phpWebsite, and I give in for Allura > > ticket system to replace Trac, but replacement of mediawiki is *really* > > painful. > KP, > The migration from Trac is unavoidable. As I predicted years ago, Trac > running as a cgi script on the shell wouldn't work. > > http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Hosted%20Apps%20Retirement/#mi > grating-application-data > > trac Import to SourceForge's Apache Allura platform is our > recommended migration path. Attempts to Install Trac to Project Web > have been largely unsuccessful and are not recommended.
Understand. > > We've put a lot of work in the past years into the wiki and it's layout, > > and the Allura wiki is really bad. > > > > Wherever I look, it's looking the wiki looks unprofessional, the > > navigation is almost lost and/or cluttered. > > > > As you can see - I do not like it! > > > > If it's possible to maintain our own stuff on the shell - pls let's > > restore > > mediawiki. > > > > If it's too much work to maintain several apps on the shell I prefer > > mediawiki in the first place. > > That was my original plan, but the migration was automated and quick. We > still have the Mediawiki backup. I'll work on Mediawiki instead of Drupal. > > http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Hosted%20Apps%20Retirement/#mi > grating-application-data > > *MediaWiki* Import to SourceForge's Apache Allura platform, or > install MediaWiki on Project web. Would it be too much work to have first mediawiki and later drupal? > > I can think of using the Allura blog for announcements, also using Allura > > ticket system instead of Trac, and we'll see what can be done with Drupal, > > once it's installed -but the wiki we had was in a really good shape , easy > > to maintain content wise, good to read - the current one is a quarry. > > > > I'm disappointed that we've put that much work work into documentation, > > that targets to help developers and users and once we've finally got > > something smooth, allowing to concentrate on the real work - LEAF > > development - we have gain to invest a lot of time to get the basics > > done. > > This is no help from SF for developers IMHO. > > > > Sorry, if that sounds negative, but every try to work with Allura's wiki > > generates pain and I'm fed up looking into now mangled pages. > > No need to apologize. That was my initial plan as you know. You now see > why I was making the recommendations I did. Yes, it took some time and force to understand :) Mike, your help and insights are appreciated, and I guess none of us will, or would have complained (maybe a little bit as usual :)), if you move on to based on your experience about hosting issues for LEAF. As you can read in my other mail, I've asked Yves for help to host mediawiki until you install it on project web. Do you have a timeframe for this task? kp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft _______________________________________________ leaf-devel mailing list leaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
