If you want to isolate the Web server from the LAN, you normally do so by
adding a third interface to the router and setting up on it a separate
netwotk, customarily called a DMZ, that keeps the "exposed" part of your
site isolated from the truly privat part of your site. This is a standard
DachStein setup and should be well explained in the DachStein docs and
config-file comments.
>>>>>>>>


This seems to be the more secure route to protect the LAN from the 
webserver.  I will try this approach. I will look for more info on DMZ.

Thanks.


>From: Ray Olszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "djoutlaw outlaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] How can I protect the network from the  webserver
>Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:46:05 -0800
>
>I added the LEAF list back in.
>
>At 03:38 AM 12/28/01 +0000, djoutlaw outlaw wrote:
> >I am sorry what I mean is I can give a friend my static IP address and 
>then
> >they can pull up my apache test page.  I am using DachStein which seems 
>to
> >be the easiest setup.  Just opened up the INTERNAL__WWW_SERVER
> >XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX  and with the TCP 0.0.0.0/0_www
>
>OK. This means you are port forwarding port 80 of your LEAF router's
>external IP address to port 80 of a private-address server. No problem 
>there.
>
> >I really just want people to be able to access port 80 but not be able to
> >use the server as a gateway to the network.  I am only forwading port 80.
> >I thought there was some way I could block the webserver from connecting 
>to
> >the network but allow everyone else to connect to the webserver
>
>Unfortunately, "connecting" is an imprecise term. I'm also uncertain as to
>what you mean by "the" network.
>
>You can prevent the Web server from initiating connections to the Internet
>(one possible "the" network), while allowing it to access the Internet only
>for purposes of responding to port-80 queries. I don't know if there is an
>easy way to do this using DachStein's setup scripts, though ... someone
>better acquainted with the intricacies of DachStein will have to handle 
>that.
>
>You would most easily do the underlying work by adding, at an appropriate
>place in your input chain, theses two firewalling rules (approximately; I
>haven't tested this syntax so may have made small errors):
>
>         ipchains -A input -j ACCEPT -s a.b.c.d/32 80 -i eth1 -p tcp
>         ipchains -A input -j DENY -s a.b.c.d/32 -i eth1 -p all
>
>where a.b.c.d is the internal address of the Web server and I've assumed
>that eth1 is your LAN interface.
>
>The first rule passes all traffic from port 80 on the Web server. The 
>second
>rule blocks all other traffic from the Web server.
>
>There are fancier ways to do this too; you can distinguish initiation and
>reply TCP (but not UDP or ICMP) packets by testing the flag bits. Look at
>the -y switch for ipchains to learn the details.
>
>While you can do this, you may not want to. The Web server may well need to
>communicate to or from other ports to work properly. For example, it may
>need to do off-LAN DNS resolution. Or it may get its time updated using 
>ntp.
>Or it may also be a mail server. Or ... you get the idea. This is what I
>meant when I said you can't decide how to firewall properly without knowing
>the details of how the setup is supposed to work.
>
>OTOH, if you want to prevent the Web server from connecting to other hosts
>on the LAN (the other possible "the" network) ... if the Web server is
>itself on the LAN, a LEAF router cannot help you there, since on-LAN 
>traffic
>doesn't (normally) go through a router. (There are some tricky things you
>can do there, but in the end, none are really secure if the Web server gets
>cracked.)
>
>If you want to isolate the Web server from the LAN, you normally do so by
>adding a third interface to the router and setting up on it a separate
>netwotk, customarily called a DMZ, that keeps the "exposed" part of your
>site isolated from the truly privat part of your site. This is a standard
>DachStein setup and should be well explained in the DachStein docs and
>config-file comments.
>
> >Thanks for the quick response!
>[old stuff deleted]
>
>
>--
>------------------------------------"Never tell me the odds!"---
>Ray Olszewski                                        -- Han Solo
>Palo Alto, CA                                   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>




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