At 11:24 AM 1/24/02 -0800, Matt Schalit wrote:
[...]
>That's was interesting Gareth.  Thanks for posting
>that.  But what's all this crap below it?  

I'll assume this is a real question, Matthew, not just a thin excuse for
being vulgar on a list that normally has a more polite tone. (Its vulgarity
is why I'm not quoting your message in full.)

The sort of boilerplate you refer to is, sadly, becoming more and more
common. It is the consequence, I think, of lawyers telling their clients
what they "have to do" to protect themselves from lawsuits. I put "have to
do" in quotes because ***I'm not a lawyer***, so I don't know if the
boilerplate is either needed or useful in any real legal context. I wonder
if the lawyers themselves know, or if they are simply telling clients to do
this sort of thing "just in case", not considering how stupid it makes the
resulting e-mail look.

On mailing-list messages, it makes the poster look particularly silly. Since
the messages are being sent to mailing lists, and the fact that mailing-list
traffic is commonly archived is well known, I doubt (though I do not *know*)
the boilerplate has any legal force in context (and I *hope*, but also do
not *know*, that such frivolous uses of it will some day cause a court to
invalidate the boilerplate as a source of protection).

Aside from the silliness of the content, it is rude in that it constitutes
an excessively-long .sig block and is posted ONLY in html form (another flaw
that I *hope* -- ask a lawyer to know, not me -- constitutes a legal flaw,
since many people use MUAs that display HTML as a difficult-to-read mess).
But these are old complaints about rude people, not specific to this piece
of nonsense ... which, to be fair to Gareth, is most likely added
automatically by the Lotus Mail Server that Gareth's mail seems to go through.

In practice, unless we filter on it (something I'd favor doing **only** if
it does have the legal effect of prohibiting archiving, and that I just
don't know), we will endure a lot more of it. Gresham's Law applies to good
taste as well as money ... but I guess you knew that, right?


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