Jack, what u say makes lots of sense to me, i do have it set that all HTTP traffic be 
sent to box1 via eth2(box3)

Well, with my limited amount of linux experience, i need some help on the commands of 
getting done what u suggested and that is:

"the rule should be to send all traffic with a DESTINATION port of 80 to BOX1, but 
route SOURCE 80 normally"

Below is my ip ru listing, with the fwmark of 2 for HTTP (port 80), which is then 
routed to 192.168.1.6(box1) via dev eth2 (box3)

All i need is a simple how-to, one the command line for my
ip route for the TABLE "Cable"
as u can see below it's only just routing all traffic to 192.168.1.6 via dev eth2

thnks

ip ru ls
0: �����from all lookup local
32764: �from all fwmark �������1 lookup adsl
32765: �from all fwmark �������2 lookup cable
32766: �from all lookup main
32767: �from all lookup default

# ip ro ls table cable
default via 192.168.1.6 dev eth2

# ipchains
Chain input (policy ACCEPT: 100740 packets, 8739050 bytes):
prot opt ���tosa tosx �ifname ��mark �outsize source destination ports
tcp �------ 0xFF 0x00 �* ����0x2 ���192.168.10.0/24 �0.0.0.0/0 ���*->���80
udp �------ 0xFF 0x00 �* ����0x2 ���192.168.10.0/24  0.0.0.0/0 ��� *->���80
Chain forward (policy ACCEPT: 75921 packets, 6589166 bytes):
Chain output (policy ACCEPT: 95403 packets, 8331173 bytes):



On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:11:07 -0800 (PST), Jack Coates wrote:
>Looking at the timestamps, I have BOX3-eth1 and BOX3-eth2 backwards.
>BOX3 is doing something wrong with the return traffic, and my guess
>is
>that its policy routing rule says to send ALL HTTP-related traffic to
>BOX1. If so, the rule should be to send all traffic with a
>DESTINATION
>port of 80 to BOX1, but route SOURCE 80 normally.
>
>Hope that helps,
>Jack
>
>On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Jack Coates wrote:
>
>>�Well, here's what I've got so far -- I didn't get any sleep last
>>night
>>�and need to go fix that, but here's a few questions and
>>assumptions:
>>
>>�SYN 192.168.10.3:2727 ->�eth1[BOX3]eth2 ->�eth1[BOX1]ppp0
>>�NAT:62.234.0.234.61706 ->�www.monkeynoodle.org:80
>>
>>�packet goes into BOX3
>>�06:34:16.517303 192.168.10.3.2727 >�66.1.155.123.80: S
>>�1254467949:1254467949(0) win 16384 <mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK>�(DF)
>>�packet comes out of BOX3
>>�06:34:16.517089 192.168.10.3.2727 >�66.1.155.123.80: S
>>�1254467949:1254467949(0) win 16384 <mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK>�(DF)
>>�packet goes into BOX1 and gets NAT'd
>>�ASSUMPTION -- BOX1's clock is 15 seconds fast.
>>�packet comes out of BOX1
>>�06:34:31.223667 62.234.0.234.61706 >�66.1.155.123.80: S
>>�1254467949:1254467949(0) win 16384 <mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK>�(DF)
>>
>>�2/10ths of a second later...
>>�192.168.10.3:2727 <- eth1[BOX3]eth2 <- eth1[BOX1]ppp0
>>�NAT:62.234.0.234.61706 <- www.monkeynoodle.org:80 ACK
>>
>>�packet goes into BOX1 and gets NAT'd
>>�06:34:31.443667 66.1.155.123.80 >�62.234.0.234.61706: S
>>�3199824407:3199824407(0) ack 1254467950 win 5840 <mss
>>�1412,nop,nop,sackOK>�(DF)
>>�the BOX3-eth2 trace never shows packets coming back from the
>>Internet,
>>�only leaving.
>>�ASSUMPTION: packet goes into BOX3
>>�packet comes out of BOX3
>>�06:34:16.747496 66.1.155.123.80 >�192.168.10.3.2727: S
>>�3199824407:3199824407(0) ack 1254467950 win 5840 <mss
>>�1412,nop,nop,sackOK>�(DF)
>>
>>�I'll finish up tomorrow night, but BOX3 ETH2 is a place to start
>>�looking.
>>�Jack
>>
>>
>>�On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Reginald R. Richardson wrote:
>>
>>�>�Ok Jack, talk to me know, have some info for you...i think we
>>going to get it talk now, i think i see the problem, but
>>�>�the solution, i need you helping minds again...
>>�>
>>�>�Attached you'll find tcpdump files of what's happening with
>>these Routers overhere in Europe..
>>�>
>>�>�My understanding of the DUMP, is not up to par, but according to
>>me this is what i see and assumed, but as always, u can
>>�>�correct if i'm wrong..
>>�>
>>�>�Workstation 192.168.10.3 is sending his HTTP (80) traffic to his
>>default router Box3 (eth1) 192.168.10.254, and i can
>>�>�clearly see him forward it according the the CABLE rule
>>(fwmark2) to Box1 (eth), so no problem there, after that short
>>�>�journey, i see Box1 (eth1) forwards it to the Internet via ppp0,
>>so everybody happy there.......
>>�>
>>�>�No the Internet "www.monkeynoodle.org" kindly accepts this
>>request, and for some reason or the other, decides to answer
>>�>�to this poor request coming from europe......as i check again, i
>>can see PPP0 telling www.monkeynoodle.org, yes, yes..i
>>�>�sent u a request...so gimme my �reply, and he kindly answers
>>that reply, and forwards it to his next door neighbour
>>�>�(box1 eth1), no he feels good, that he gets his reply back, and
>>being a good guy, he sends it back down the chain to
>>�>�BOX3 eth2,
>>�>�No box2 see this Port 80 packet coming in LOUD and clear...and
>>kindly answers it with joy, to forward it back to the
>>�>�poor Workstation, that's waiting in vain for a reply, but eth2
>>has to send it via his neighbour, which is BOX3 eth1,
>>�>�which i can clearly see him doing.....
>>�>
>>�>�But wait just one sec there..(Houston, i think we have a
>>problem), yep....eth1 is either refusing to answer, or he's
>>�>�just not seeing this Port80 packet coming to him from eth1
>>...TIMEOUT...RAIN CHECK.....
>>�>
>>�>�Now were here wondering WHAT the hell went wrong, is that, eth1
>>is angry with his neighbour eth2 and refuse to answer,
>>�>�or is it that he don't know the way back to send the packet back
>>to the poor workstation (192.168.10.3).
>>�>
>>�>�Now, help us (me, myself and I) out there, what is missing
>>here...well i think you read my entire ip routes and ip
>>�>�tables etc, so u have enough info to see whaz wrong, if any more
>>info is �needed please let me know and i'll send it
>>�>�live and direct to you...
>>�>
>>�>�attached u'll find tcpdumps, and somekind of ASCII netdiagram
>>of HomeNet in Europe....struggling to offer Mommy, Daddy
>>�>�and kids a descent internet connection..
>>�>
>>�>�BTW:i was looking at leaf for the ipcheck, but ain't find
>>it...do u have a link for me...
>>�>�thnks for the help so far..
>>�>
>>�>�I think we going to get it work now.....but this is PHASE I,
>>Phase II to follow, that is PORT FORWARDING, had some
>>�>�problems with it, but will check it out again, after we have
>>this running like a TRAIN
>>�>
>>�>�Once again, thanks for your help and your ENERGY.....
>>�>�I think i'll get this one working, i'm seeing the LIGHT, better
>>than when i was trying it with 1BOX, and two, external
>>�>�interfaces...
>>�>
>>�>�I HAVE A DREAM/HOPE, that it gonna work..
>>�>
>>�>�cheers
>>�>�Reggie
>>�>
>>�>
>>�>�On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 15:35:55 -0800 (PST), Jack Coates wrote:
>>�>�>On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Reginald R. Richardson wrote:
>>�>�>
>>�>�>>�Jack../Charles
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�we starting to see some light, but i guess that the lack of
>>some
>>�>�>>Linux Firewall
>>�>�>>�knowledge holding us back over here...
>>�>�>>�but here's what..
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�On my BOX3 Non NAT/Firewall Box
>>�>�>>�if i add a default route on this box, via the CABLE Router
>>(Box1),
>>�>�>>then all
>>�>�>>�HTTP traffic goes out to the internet without a problem, and
>>also,
>>�>�>>all the
>>�>�>>�other traffic that has to go to the internet via Box2, goes to
>>�>�>>Box2, so here i
>>�>�>>�can see that Box3, is sending the traffic to the correct
>>InterNet
>>�>�>>Router, so in
>>�>�>>�other words, he's a very nice Traffic Police, he's routing as
>>�>�>>COMMANDED too..
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�For some reason, i can't figure out, why the return traffic
>>is not
>>�>�>>going back
>>�>�>>�to the workstation without any problem..
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>
>>�>�>To figure this out you need to use tcpdump; it's probably
>>getting
>>�>�>lost
>>�>�>between box1 or 2 and box3.
>>�>�>
>>�>�>>�but what i found strange, is that from the moment i say the
>>the
>>�>�>>default gateway
>>�>�>>�is box 1 eg.
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�"ip route add 0/0 via 192.168.1.6" (box1), then i have no
>>problem
>>�>�>>internet
>>�>�>>�traffic proceeds, but from the moment i removed this route, no
>>�>�>>more internet...
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�to the little knowledge i have, i don't believe that BOX3
>>should
>>�>�>>have an
>>�>�>>�default route, because i assume that the LOOKUP table is
>>supposed
>>�>�>>to tell him
>>�>�>>�where to send the data for the specific Traffice Type.
>>(correct me
>>�>�>>if i'm
>>�>�>>�wrong)
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>
>>�>�>Maybe... a default route could be helpful if you get everything
>>else
>>�>�>configured right.
>>�>�>
>>�>�>>�On Box1 and Box2, is the normal settings that came by
>>�>�>>default..with Dachsten
>>�>�>>�onliest changes i have in those boxes is a static route back
>>to the
>>�>�>>�192.168.10.0 network, and i commented out the ipchains
>>commands
>>�>�>>that block
>>�>�>>�traffic to the 10.0.0.0 network on Box2 (see below)
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�Box1 (Cable)
>>�>�>>�#ip route
>>�>�>>�62.234.0.1 dev ppp0 �proto kernel �scope link �src
>>62.234.0.234
>>�>�>>�192.168.1.4/30 dev eth1 �proto kernel �scope link �src
>>192..168.1.6
>>�>�>>�192.168.10.0/24 via 192.168.1.5 dev eth1
>>�>�>>�default via 62.234.0.1 dev ppp0
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�#ip addr sh
>>�>�>>�7: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP>�mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
>>qlen
>>�>�>>100
>>�>�>>���link/ether 00:10:4b:bb:c8:25 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>�>�>>�8: eth1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,PROMISC,UP>�mtu 1500 qdisc
>>�>�>>pfifo_fast qlen 100
>>�>�>>���link/ether 00:c0:f0:12:f1:c8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>�>�>>���inet 192.168.1.6/30 brd 192.168.1.7 scope global eth1
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�Box2 (Adsl)
>>�>�>>�#ip route
>>�>�>>�192.168.1.0/30 dev eth1 �proto kernel �scope link �src
>>192..168.1.2
>>�>�>>�10.0.0.0/24 dev eth0 �proto kernel �scope link �src
>>10.0.0..100
>>�>�>>�192.168.10.0/24 via 192.168.1.1 dev eth1
>>�>�>>�default via 10.0.0.138 dev eth0
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�#ip addr sh
>>�>�>>�7: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP>�mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
>>qlen
>>�>�>>100
>>�>�>>���link/ether 08:00:00:22:20:34 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>�>�>>���inet 10.0.0.100/24 brd 10.0.0.255 scope global eth0
>>�>�>>�8: eth1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,PROMISC,UP>�mtu 1500 qdisc
>>�>�>>pfifo_fast qlen 100
>>�>�>>���link/ether 00:40:05:27:cb:9a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�This is a little tricky one, cause my ADSL provider Network
>>�>�>>requires us to
>>�>�>>�create a VPN connection between my router and the ADSL MODEM,
>>so
>>�>�>>therefore the
>>�>�>>�default route is the ADSL Modem 10.0.0.138 (before u asked, i
>>�>�>>commented out the
>>�>�>>�IPCHAINS rules in this router that block the RFC ip's of
>>10.0.0.0)
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�>From this router i can ping the internet without any
>>problem, so
>>�>�>>therefore i
>>�>�>>�have internet connectivity.
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�Here is what i have on Box3
>>�>�>>�#ip addr sh
>>�>�>>�7: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP>�mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
>>qlen
>>�>�>>100
>>�>�>>���link/ether 00:10:4b:bb:c8:25 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>�>�>>�8: eth1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,PROMISC,UP>�mtu 1500 qdisc
>>�>�>>pfifo_fast qlen 100
>>�>�>>���link/ether 00:c0:f0:12:f1:c8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>�>�>>���inet 192.168.1.6/30 brd 192.168.1.7 scope global eth1
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�# ip ru ls
>>�>�>>�0: �����from all lookup local
>>�>�>>�32764: �from all fwmark �������1 lookup adsl
>>�>�>>�32765: �from all fwmark �������2 lookup cable
>>�>�>>�32766: �from all lookup main
>>�>�>>�32767: �from all lookup default
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�# ipchains
>>�>�>>�Chain input (policy ACCEPT: 100740 packets, 8739050 bytes):
>>�>�>>�prot opt ���tosa tosx �ifname ��mark �outsize source
>>destination
>>�>�>>��ports
>>�>�>>�tcp �------ 0xFF 0x00 �* ����0x2 ���192.168.10.0/24 �
>>0.0.0.0/0 ���*
>>�>�>>�->���80
>>�>�>>�udp �------ 0xFF 0x00 �* ����0x2 ���192.168.10.0/24 �
>>0.0.0.0/0 ���*
>>�>�>>�->���80
>>�>�>>�udp �------ 0xFF 0x00 �* ����0x2 ���192.168.10.0/24 �
>>0.0.0.0/0 ���*
>>�>�>>�->���443
>>�>�>>�tcp �------ 0xFF 0x00 �* ����0x2 ���192.168.10.0/24 �
>>0.0.0.0/0 ���*
>>�>�>>�->���443
>>�>�>>�tcp �------ 0xFF 0x00 �* ����0x2 ���192.168.10.0/24 �
>>0.0.0.0/0 ���*
>>�>�>>�->���110
>>�>�>>�tcp �------ 0xFF 0x00 �* ����0x2 ���192.168.10.0/24 �
>>0.0.0.0/0 ���*
>>�>�>>�->���25
>>�>�>>�tcp �------ 0xFF 0x00 �* ����0x1 ���192.168.10.0/24 �
>>0.0.0.0/0 ���*
>>�>�>>�->���1214
>>�>�>>�Chain forward (policy ACCEPT: 75921 packets, 6589166 bytes):
>>�>�>>�Chain output (policy ACCEPT: 95403 packets, 8331173 bytes):
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�# ip ro ls table cable
>>�>�>>�default via 192.168.1.6 dev eth2
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�# ip rou ls table adsl
>>�>�>>�default via 192.168.1.2 dev eth0
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�# ip route
>>�>�>>�192.168.1.0/30 dev eth0 �proto kernel �scope link �src
>>192..168.1.1
>>�>�>>�192.168.1.4/30 dev eth2 �proto kernel �scope link �src
>>192..168.1.5
>>�>�>>�192.168.10.0/24 dev eth1 �proto kernel �scope link �src
>>�>�>>192.168.10.254
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>
>>�>�>Looks alright from a cursory glance, tcpdump is the only way to
>>tell
>>�>�>if
>>�>�>it's really working like you expect.
>>�>�>
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�Jack,
>>�>�>>�What did u mean with this comment, don't under what u mean
>>with
>>�>�>>"tc"
>>�>�>>�"Make sure you have proper tc rules for _both_ directions"
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>
>>�>�>Sorry, I meant fwmark rules; tc is a tool from the same iproute2
>>�>�>suite
>>�>�>used for QoS.
>>�>�>
>>�>�>>�Do hope i have provided enough information, so that i can get
>>�>�>>these babies talk
>>�>�>>�to me, and do what they should do.
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�Can some one give me a tip, on what i can do to tell BOX3
>>that if
>>�>�>>he routes
>>�>�>>�HTTP traffic to BOX1, and there is no reply, then he should
>>send
>>�>�>>it to Box2
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>
>>�>�>First concentrate on getting fwmark to work, then worry about
>>�>�>failover
>>�>�>:-) To do this you'll just find the ipcheck script from the
>>LEAF site
>>�>�>and modify it to your needs.
>>�>�>
>>�>�>>�thnks alot
>>�>�>>
>>�>�>>�On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 08:26:44 -0800 (PST), Jack Coates wrote:
>>�>�>>�>Been there done that :-) Make sure you have proper tc rules
>>for
>>�>�>>�>_both_
>>�>�>>�>directions, and try tcpdump on all three boxes. Not sure if
>>you
>>�>�>>�>already
>>�>�>>�>knew this, but tcpdump has a ton of command line options to
>>make
>>�>�>>it
>>�>�>>�>just
>>�>�>>�>show the packets you're looking for. Also double-check your
>>NAT
>>�>�>>and
>>�>�>>�>the
>>�>�>>�>routing on box 1 and 2. I suspect something like this is
>>�>�>>happening to
>>�>�>>�>you:
>>�>�>>�>
>>�>�>>�>z.z.z.z:1024 SYN ->�box3 ->�box1(NATSRC=x.x.x.x:4001) ->
>>�>�>>a.a.a.a:80
>>�>�>>�>
>>�>�>>�>z.z.z.z:1024 �������box3 <ACK loops back to>�box1 ����<-
>>�>�>>a.a.a.a:80
>>�>�>>�>
>>�>�>>�>So on each box get two consoles (one for eth0 and one for
>>eth1),
>>�>�>>�>then do
>>�>�>>�>a:
>>�>�>>�>tcpdump -i eth[0|1] -n port 80 and host 66.1.155.123
>>�>�>>�>
>>�>�>>�>and then go to your client workstation and browse to
>>�>�>>�>www.monkeynoodle.org. The tcpdump output should make it very
>>clear
>>�>�>>�>what
>>�>�>>�>happened.
>>�>�>>�>
>>�>�>>�>Good luck!
>>�>�>>�>Jack
>>�>�>>�>
>>�>�>>�>On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Reginald R. Richardson wrote:
>>�>�>>�>
>>�>�>>�>>�Me again..
>>�>�>>�>>
>>�>�>>�>>�We getting there, with this 3 router box...
>>�>�>>�>>
>>�>�>>�>>�Question:
>>�>�>>�>>�I reach so far as having Router3 sending the HTTP traffic
>>to the
>>�>�>>�>>correct
>>�>�>>�>>�router, the SMTP traffic to the correct box also, as i use
>>my
>>�>�>>�>>TCPDUMP on my BOX
>>�>�>>�>>�connecected to the Internet, i can see the HTTP traffic
>>being
>>�>�>>�>>transmitted to
>>�>�>>�>>�the internet, but my problem is it's not being return to
>>the
>>�>�>>�>>requesting
>>�>�>>�>>�workstation.
>>�>�>>�>>
>>�>�>>�>>�this is what my HTTP lookup table looks like
>>�>�>>�>>�ip rout ls table http
>>�>�>>�>>�default dev eth2 �scope link
>>�>�>>�>>
>>�>�>>�>>�I must say, that if i clear this table, and let BOX3, with
>>a
>>�>�>>�>>DEFAULT GW to the
>>�>�>>�>>�internet via BOX1 or BOX2, then the Workstation can
>>connect to
>>�>�>>the
>>�>�>>�>>net without
>>�>�>>�>>�any problems.
>>�>�>>�>>
>>�>�>>�>>�I don't have the slightest idea now where i should look
>>�>�>>�>>
>>�>�>>�>>�thnks
>>�>�>>�>>
>>�>�>>�>>�On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:14:37 -0600, Charles Steinkuehler
>>wrote:
>>�>�>>�>>�>Everything seems to be moving like a charm, not getting
>>the IP
>>�>�>>�>>ROUTE
>>�>�>>�>>�>per TCP
>>�>�>>�>>�>Port talking to healthy, but still working on it..
>>�>�>>�>>�>
>>�>�>>�>>�>question.
>>�>�>>�>>�>U mentioned why not use "equal-weight routing", i checked
>>at
>>�>�>>�>>googles
>>�>�>>�>>�>to get
>>�>�>>�>>�>more info about this, it seems a nice way to go...but can
>>u
>>�>�>>guide
>>�>�>>�>>me
>>�>�>>�>>�>to a
>>�>�>>�>>�>weblink where i can find more info on how to implement
>>this on
>>�>�>>my
>>�>�>>�>>�>Box3,
>>�>�>>�>>�>
>>�>�>>�>>�>CS>�Start with the Advanced Routing HOWTO, from
>>linuxdoc..org or
>>�>�>>�>>�>similar...if
>>�>�>>�>>�>you get your port-based routing tables setup, you'll be
>>over
>>�>�>>most
>>�>�>>�>>of
>>�>�>>�>>�>the
>>�>�>>�>>�>hurdles...
>>�>�>>�>>�>
>>�>�>>�>>�>CS>��Keep us all posted on your progress...if you get this
>>�>�>>�>>working,
>>�>�>>�>>�>it's the
>>�>�>>�>>�>first step to doing the same thing cleanly with a single
>>box.
>>�>�>>�>>�>
>>�>�>>�>>�>Charles Steinkuehler
>>�>�>>�>>�>http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
>>�>�>>�>>�>http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)
>>�>�>>�>>�>
>>�>�>>�>>�>
>>�>�>>�>>
>>�>�>>�>>
>>�>�>>�>>
>>�>�>>�>>
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>>�>�>>�>>�Reginald R. Richardson
>>�>�>>�>>�[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 1/26/2002
>>�>�>>�>>
>>�>�>>�>>
>>�>�>>�>>
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