Would NFS tunneled through SSH be acceptable?

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:

> Hi Nicolas,
> 
> I think that after much thought that I will opt to try to explain to
> them the security problems of using NFS over the firewall and try to
> use another solution instead.
> 
> Thanks for all of the help to you and everyone on the list who always
> seems to try to answer most of my seemingly dumb questions.
> 
> Cheers,
> Lonnie
> 
> > Hi Lonnie!
> >
> > > Actually was are still a amall company and this particular job
> > > if for some friends, a research group the university who has
> > > recently had problems, who will not listen to reason about the
> > > problems of port- forwarding services like NFS. With that in
> > > mind, I told them that I would help get them as secure as
> > > possible given their specific
> > > requirements.
> >
> > Sorry, that's what I realized when I rethought about this (ie
> > that it must have been something not internal to your
> > company...).
> >
> > BTW, I hope these people are not in CS...
> >
> > > Like many people in the academic arena, it will take getting
> > > hacked and attacked a few time before they realize that they
> > > should have listened to more well informed people in the past,
> > > like me, who has tried very hard to get them out of the current
> > > mentality of "patch- work" until the next problem.
> >
> > If these weren't your friends I would almost be tempted to
> > suggest that you get this in writing that they prefer that
> > solution over a more secure one (after being informed of the
> > security implications)....  (Some good ol' CUA...)
> >
> > > So, being this, I will simple try to make the best out of what
> > > they have and will let get done.
> >
> > The problem seem to be that NFS doesn't seem to be very firewall
> > friendly...
> >
> > > These guys will learn with time I am sure.
> >
> > For their sake I hope so... (and before they get seriously
> > hacked)
> >
> >> After making some changes to the firewall and setting up the
> >> port- forwarding for sunrpc and nfs on udp packets, I am no
> >> longer getting an RPC time out but now just:
> > > mount: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection refused
> >
> > This might seem like a dumb question (and sorry if you mentionned
> > the answer to this one before, I couldn't find it) but where they
> > communicating with each other before the firewall was installed?
> >
> > Anything in the logs?
> >
> > I haven't "played" with NFS recently but if I had that message I
> > think I would check if I got the appropriate/relevant entries in
> > hosts.allow & hosts.deny (ie lines for portmap, lockd, mountd,
> > rquotad & statd).
> >
> > [The text at the following URL might be useful in getting this
> > right:
> > <http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/article.asp?
> article=articles%2F2001%2Fs1206%2F48s06web%2F48s06web%2Easp>]
> >
> > (Sorry, this might be two long for the mailing list, you'll
> > probably have to cut & paste it...)
> >
> >>
> >> on the client machine when I try to mount the directory.
> >>
> >> The client can been seen on the DNS as well as the server has
> >> the client IP in its hosts file.
> >
> > I assumed here that you meant the hosts files and not the
> > hosts.allow & hosts.deny file, sorry if that was not the case...
> >
> >>
> >> Any ideas from here?
> >>
> >
> > BTW, did you try opening the ports mentionned in the messages I
> > posted? Apparently it's not easy getting them right but I do
> > believe one of the messages actually mentionned a way of finding
> > them out (rpcinfo -p or rpcinfo -p localhost)
> >
> > I did see a mention at the following URL
> > <http://www.io.com/help/linux/NFS-HOWTO-5.html> (NFS and
> > firewalls) that it might be possible to change the ports used by
> > NFS to some specific ports but how this is done I unfortunatly
> > don't know (sorry...).
> >
> > Have a nice day & good luck!
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
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