Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> 
> > Did you see this, yesterday?
> 
> Yeah...got distracted while analizing & it got dropped...

OK, sorry for my impatience . . .

> > > The final problem is the fact that you can't do an snmpwalk from the
> > > firewall to the DMZ.  Apparently, the SNMP query packets are
> transmitted,
> > > but no response is recieved.  I still don't understand why this is
> > > happening, especially if you can do an snmpwalk from the internal
> network (I
> > > think I remember you saying you could...)
> > >
> > > Patch your ipfilter.conf, and see how much farther that gets you.  If
> you
> > > still can't snmpwalk from the firewall, take tcpdumps at both the
> firewall
> > > (DMZ IF) and the DMZ system, while trying to snmpwalk from both the
> firewall
> > > and from an internal system.
> >
> > Following are dumps for snmpwalk failure between DCD and one of its dmz
> > hosts.  I have tried to remove spurious data, like Unknown IPX packet
> > stuff ;<  The rest I could not rule out -- can you?
> 
> We'll see...are you actually running an IPX network?

Yes, and else, too ;>

[ snip ]

> I'm confused.  I don't think the firewall rules on the .65 machine can be
> your problem, since you're seeing the request packets go out, and even if
> the replies were being dropped, tcpdump would see them at the interface.
> About the only thing that comes to mind is your snmp configuration on the
> .66 machine.  Are you *SURE* you've allowed snmp queries from the firewall
> IP and you're not firewalling any traffic on the .66 system?  Which version
> of SNMP are you running?

Join the club ;>

w.x.y.66 is a netware v5.x box, a mail server running groupies, &c. 
It's not my environment, but an associate's.  I know (next to) nothing
about netware and he knows nearly nothing about snmp.  I've queried snmp
v1, 2c and 3 -- all same results.  No, there is not any ip filtering on
that box.

> If you can't find any problems with the configuration of the .66 machine, do
> a tcp dump on the DMZ IF of the the firewall while trying to snmpwalk from
> the firewall and from an internal network system (am I remembering correctly
> that you said internal systems could see the DMZ snmp server?).  It would
> probalby also help if you provide the output of net ipfilter list and your
> snmp config file from the DMZ system...

Yes, I can snmpwalk w.x.y.66 *both* from a remote internet host _and_
from some moronic wintel box inside its internal network (notice, *not*
on the dmz).

This weekend, I will try to comply with your latest test . . .

Follows, hopefully readable, is output of net ipfilter list from subject
DCD:

Chain input (policy DENY: 7 packets, 801 bytes):
 pkts bytes target     prot opt    tosa tosx  ifname     mark      
outsize  source                destination           ports
    0     0 DENY       all  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
255.255.255.255       n/a
    0     0 DENY       icmp ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
*                              0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             5 ->   *
    0     0 DENY       icmp ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
*                              0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             13 ->   *
    0     0 DENY       icmp ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
*                              0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             14 ->   *
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0             
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    1    43 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           255.255.255.255     
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           127.0.0.0/8         
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           224.0.0.0/4         
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           10.0.0.0/8          
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           172.16.0.0/12       
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           192.168.0.0/16      
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/8           
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           128.0.0.0/16        
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           191.255.0.0/16      
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           192.0.0.0/24        
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           223.255.255.0/24    
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           240.0.0.0/4         
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           192.168.1.0/24      
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 dmzSpoof   all  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           w.x.y.64/26         
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           w.x.z.157           
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           w.x.y.72            
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 REJECT     all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
127.0.0.0/8           n/a
    0     0 REJECT     all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
192.168.1.0/24        n/a
    0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   137
    0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   135
  105  8190 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   137
    0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   135
    4   192 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   138:139
    0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   138
    0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             137:138 ->   *
    0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             135 ->   *
    0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             137:139 ->   *
    0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             135 ->   *
17340 2940K dmzIn      all  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.y.64/26           n/a
   14   728 ACCEPT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   22
    0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   113
81135   71M ACCEPT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   1024:65535
    0     0 ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   123
 1835  285K ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   161
    0     0 ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   162
    0     0 ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   514
 3476  710K ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   500
    0     0 DENY       udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   67
 1894  487K ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   1024:65535
  105  6175 ACCEPT     icmp ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   *
    0     0 ACCEPT     ospf ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    9  1064 ACCEPT     50   ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.z.157             n/a
    0     0 ACCEPT     51   ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.z.157             n/a
   39  2061 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
 109K   23M ACCEPT     all  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
*                              0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
Chain forward (policy DENY: 0 packets, 0 bytes):
 pkts bytes target     prot opt    tosa tosx  ifname     mark      
outsize  source                destination           ports
    0     0 DENY       icmp ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
*                              0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             5 ->   *
    0     0 MASQ       tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
*                              192.168.1.20        
0.0.0.0/0             5631 ->   *
    0     0 MASQ       udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
*                              192.168.1.20        
0.0.0.0/0             5632 ->   *
14296  940K MASQ       all  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
eth1                           192.168.1.0/24      
w.x.y.64/26           n/a
    0     0 ACCEPT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
eth1                           0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.y.66              * ->   110
 2771 1879K ACCEPT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
eth1                           0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.y.66              * ->   25
 2250  157K ACCEPT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
eth1                           0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.y.66              * ->   80
    0     0 ACCEPT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
eth1                           0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.y.66              * ->   7205
   22  1668 ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
eth1                           0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.y.66              * ->   161
   16  1451 ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           w.x.y.66            
0.0.0.0/0             161 ->   *
    0     0 ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
eth1                           0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.y.66              * ->   7205
    0     0 ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           w.x.y.66            
0.0.0.0/0             7205 ->   *
   28  2076 ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
eth1                           0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.y.68              * ->   161
   16  1416 ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           w.x.y.68            
0.0.0.0/0             161 ->   *
    0     0 ACCEPT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
eth1                           0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.y.67              * ->   5631
    0     0 ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
eth1                           0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.y.67              * ->   5632
    0     0 ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           w.x.y.67            
0.0.0.0/0             5632 ->   *
  724 36354 ACCEPT     tcp  !y---- 0xFF 0x00 
eth1                           0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.y.64/26           * ->   1024:65535
  372 18280 ACCEPT     icmp ------ 0xFF 0x00 
eth1                           0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.y.64/26           * ->   *
 7257 4444K ACCEPT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           w.x.y.64/26         
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   *
    4   136 ACCEPT     icmp ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           w.x.y.64/26         
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   *
    0     0 ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           w.x.y.64/26         
0.0.0.0/0             53 ->   *
  178 12609 MASQ       udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           w.x.y.64/26         
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   *
61687 9489K MASQ       all  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           192.168.1.0/24      
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
 2117  109K DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
eth1                           0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.y.64/26           n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
*                              0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
Chain output (policy DENY: 5 packets, 200 bytes):
 pkts bytes target     prot opt    tosa tosx  ifname     mark      
outsize  source                destination           ports
 211K   99M fairq      all  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
*                              0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0             
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           255.255.255.255     
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           127.0.0.0/8         
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           224.0.0.0/4         
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           10.0.0.0/8          
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           172.16.0.0/12       
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           192.168.0.0/16      
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/8           
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           128.0.0.0/16        
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           191.255.0.0/16      
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           192.0.0.0/24        
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           223.255.255.0/24    
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           240.0.0.0/4         
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           192.168.1.0/24      
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   137
    0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   135
    0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   137
    0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   135
    0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   138:139
    0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             * ->   138
    0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             137:138 ->   *
    0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             135 ->   *
    0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             137:139 ->   *
    0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
wan1                           0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             135 ->   *
 211K   99M ACCEPT     all  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
*                              0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
Chain fairq (1 references):
 pkts bytes target     prot opt    tosa tosx  ifname     mark      
outsize  source                destination           ports
    0     0 RETURN     ospf ------ 0xFF 0x00  *         
0x1                   0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 RETURN     ospf ------ 0xFF 0x00  *         
0x1                   0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 RETURN     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *         
0x1                   0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             * ->  
520
    0     0 RETURN     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *         
0x1                   0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             520
->   *
    0     0 RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *         
0x1                   0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             * ->  
179
    0     0 RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *         
0x1                   0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             179
->   *
    0     0 RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *         
0x1                   0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             * ->  
53
   12   656 RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *         
0x1                   0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             53 ->  
*
 3109  210K RETURN     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *         
0x1                   0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             * ->  
53
 1240  164K RETURN     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *         
0x1                   0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             53 ->  
*
    0     0 RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *         
0x2                   0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             * ->  
23
    0     0 RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *         
0x2                   0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             23 ->  
*
    3   132 RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *         
0x2                   0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             * ->  
22
 7988 1020K RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *         
0x2                   0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             22 ->  
*
Chain dmzSpoof (1 references):
 pkts bytes target     prot opt    tosa tosx  ifname     mark      
outsize  source                destination           ports
    0     0 RETURN     all  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
*                              w.x.z.158           
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 RETURN     all  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
*                              w.x.z.157           
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
    0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00 
*                              0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
Chain dmzIn (1 references):
 pkts bytes target     prot opt    tosa tosx  ifname     mark      
outsize  source                destination           ports
    0     0 RETURN     all  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
*                              0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.z.158             n/a
    0     0 RETURN     all  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
*                              0.0.0.0/0           
w.x.z.157             n/a
17340 2940K ACCEPT     all  ------ 0xFF 0x00 
*                              0.0.0.0/0           
0.0.0.0/0             n/a
AutoFW:
Type Prot Low  High Vis  Hid  Where    Last     CPto CPrt Timer Flags
MarkFW:
fwmark   rediraddr               rport  pcnt  pref
PortFW:
prot localaddr            rediraddr               lport    rport  pcnt 
pref
UDP  w.x.z.157         192.168.1.20            55632     5632    10   
10
TCP  w.x.z.157         192.168.1.20            55631     5631    10   
10


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