I strongly hope that's my mistake somewhere and not the ISP's. If the ISP blocks the 
IPSEC, could I connect to my office's VPN server? I still can do that before this 
experiment (removing ipsec module...).

The bad (and probably good -:)) news is that I do not see anything logged into 
/var/log/messages on my site after I ping the other site. 

Lynn mentioned that "But more likely, the route to the correct local subnet on each 
machine is missing" . How can I detect that and how to fix it.

Thank you.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Charles Steinkuehler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:  Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:58:55 -0500

>
>Based on everything you've reported so-far, I would either suspect firewall
>rules on the remote gateway (you only listed one side, so there could be
>problems with the other end), or someone filtering IPSec traffic between
>your two boxes.
>
>*MANY* ISP's are beginning to filter IPSec traffic for folks who don't pay
>"business" class rates...it's easy to do, and usually prompts most actual
>businesses to spend 2-3 times more for services.  You might want to check
>with local user groups, and/or any online forums discussing your particular
>ISP(s), and see if they might be dropping your IPSec traffic.  The symptoms
>you're reporting are very consistent with protocol 50 traffic not making it
>through the network between your two VPN boxes.
>
>I don't know of an easy way to test for this...with the two LEAF boxes at
>either end, probabaly the easiest thing to do is run the following commands
>on *BOTH* VPN gateway's:
>
>ipchains -I input -p 50 -l
>ipchains -I output -p 50 -l
>
>This will cause *ALL* ESP (protocol 50) packets to get logged when entering
>and leaving your firewall.  If you see packets getting sent from one
>mahcine, but not being recieved by the other end, you'll know something is
>wrong, probably the ISP at one end or the other filtering the traffic...
>
>Charles Steinkuehler
>http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
>http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)
>
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