Forwarded to the list. My replies interspersed.

At 12:17 PM 7/31/02 -0700, Du atyahoo wrote:
>Since I am not sure if you want my reply to appear on
>the Board, I will keep this a private response.  You
>can do whatever you want with my email.

I tend to feel that everyone benefits when troubleshooting discussions take 
place in public. Hence my practice of always adding the list back in.

>I talked to MediaCom.  It is a MAC authentication
>problem.  It does not want the user have more than one
>IP so they track the MAC number.
>
>With so many people have more than one machine,
>personally I dont think this is a good idea.
>
> > I don't want to belabor this too much, but we are
> > starting to see a
> > systematic problem here. In the last day, we have
> > had THREE cases where
> > LEAF distros failed to get a DHCP lease due to
> > MAC-address-authentication
> > problems. In all three cases, the original posting
> > did not include the
> > information needed to spot this as the problem,
> > because the poster
> >
> >          described use of a dual-boot machine as
> > though it were two
> > separate hosts, -OR-
>
> >
> > Newcomers posting troubleshooting problem should
> > learn from this and be
> > very clear about the details of tests they do that
> > involve varying the
> > hardware connected to the ISP (especially
> > cable-modem setups, but really
> > all setups).
>
>I totally agree with you and I apologize for my
>messed-up description.

No need. I really was not trying to pick on you. There does seem to be a 
general problem here -- when LEAF has a problem in a DHCP setting, 
especially one involving a cable-modem ISP, MAC authentication is very 
often the problem.  We need to figure out a better way to spot it early in 
the troubleshooting differential (and then conveince the poster to check it 
-- you did so promptly, so got your solution, but sometimes we are told 
that the poster "knows" that this isn't the problem).

>There is a real sense in which getting
> > a firewall/router to
> > work (ANY firewall/router, not just LEAF) involves
> > outsmarting your ISP, so
> > you need to pay attention to what you "tell" your
> > ISP, even what you tell
> > it inadvertently.
>As far as MediaCom in my area is concerned, it does
>not care if you have a firewall.  Everything you can
>or cannot do is in their user agreement.  Of course we
>are armed with the nicest firewall there is, what to
>do with it is really up to the Linux users.

Glad to hear it. Am I correct then in inferring that your talk with 
MediaCom resulted in a quick fix and the LEAF router is now able to 
authenticate?

>Thanks again for your help.




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Ray Olszewski                                        -- Han Solo
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