Hello Joris,

On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 21:50:33 +0200 Joris Kempen wrote:

> Question: and what can I do more with this setup??? Any nice ideas?
 
With Linux the sky is the limit, really.  It just depends on what
you want to accomplish and how much you're willing to learn to do
so.  Having said that, remember that installing software on the
router, especially services directly or indirectly exposed to the
outside world, increases the number of "tools" an attacker has at
her disposal.

> Well I have some small questions already:
> 
> - I use MSN Messenger, and with program you can send/receive files from
> other people.
> With my current LRP setup, I'm only able to receive files. Can't send any.
> Anyone know where to set this open on my LRP box?

I don't use MSN messenger or have a Dachstein box that I can run
messenger through, but in case no one with first-hand experience
replies, here are some tidbits that might help...

After a bit of googling, e.g. for

  "msn messenger" send files ipchains

, it seems this is a common problem.  You might want to try the
approach described in the thread at:

  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/printthread.php?threadid=647

Another approach that might work is to install SOCKS on the
firewall.  If the file sending problem is related to the
masqueraded connection, SOCKS might bypass it.  I thought I
remembered leaf-user discussions of this in the past, but the
darn MSN ads in the message footers make it a pain to search.

http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/7325/2001/6/50/6058186/

<aside>
The ht://Dig search interface at
http://www.mail-archive.com/leaf-user%40lists.sourceforge.net/
doesn't seem to support the boolean "not" operator.
</aside>

Hang on, just found a mailing list reference.  Scott's suggestion
in the thread at
  
http://www.geocrawler.com/mail/thread.php3?subject=%5BLeaf-user%5D+EchoWall+and+MSN+Messenger&list=7325

might work.  (I'm not positive the problem being solved is the
same one you have though, so proceed with caution.)

> Do I need to do some configuration? And where to change things, on the
> Dachstein setup, or in EchoWall?

If the approach described in the leaf-user thread above doesn't work,
you'll probably need to add rules to /root/echowall/echowall.rules .
(There may be a better place.  Hopefully Scott Best is listening
and can add his insight here.)

> - how does Echowall work exactly on top of Dachstein???

The README file at
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/sbest/echowall/_README_
describes the basics.  Beyond that file, you'll probably need to
dig through the scripts, particularly /root/echowall/echowall .

 
> - Is it possible to have IIS webserver running behind my LRP box (on a local
> pc with let's say ip 192.168.1.3) and make it communicate with the outside?
> My outside ip is something like 212.68.38.23
> and when i go with a browser to this IP on port 80, I want to access the IIS
> website on local pc 192.168.1.3
>
> I assume I need to forward my incoming request on port 80 on my router, to
> forward them to my local PC with IIS.
> 
> - I want to do the same for FTP, incoming traffic at port 21 or something to
> forward to an internal ftp server.

That's covered in the README mentioned above.  Let us know if you
have specific questions after reading it.

If you have an extra NIC available, it would be more secure to put
the web and ftp servers in a DMZ.  That would make it more difficult
for an attacker to penetrating your LAN if they are able to compromise
those services.
 
> - is there a way how to see what's all happening at my server? I know there
> is the monitor on 192.168.1.254 but still I have no idea what's going on at
> all.

The packet filtering functions of Dachstein/echowall are built
upon ipchains.  You might want to read the ipchains howto[1] and
then experiment a bit.  You might also find the online ipchains
log analyzers[2,3] enlightening.  Robert Graham's "Firewall
Forensics FAQ"[4] is also a great starter document.


> - I have a 1,6 GB HD laying around. Any nice things I can do with that on my
> router?
 
There are lots of things you could do with the extra space.  Two
that come to mind offhand are a squid caching proxy server or a
snort IDS.  I *think* there are (old) Dachstein packages available
for both.  Remember that adding all that (writable) space gives
attackers more room to install things like compilers and root kits
if your firewall is compromised.  Unless you have a real need to
install extras, or you really want to learn about the add-ons and
and you don't mind sacrificing security to do so, I'd recommend
against adding the extras.

> Lot's of questions, hope some one can answer some of them.
> 
> Now I have my router finally working correctly, I just want to have some fun
> with it. All ideas welcome:)

Hope my reply helps a bit.  Have fun!

--Brad

[1] http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IPCHAINS-HOWTO.html
[2] like http://www.echogent.com/cgi-bin/fwlog.pl
[3] and http://logi.cc/linux/ipchainsLogAnalyzer.php3
[4] http://www.robertgraham.com/pubs/firewall-seen.html

> Gr. Joris
> 
> Met vriendelijke groet,
> 
> Joris Kempen


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