Ronny,

I put both of your messages together below just to keep the thread a little
cleaner.

There is no stable alternative to Zebra. I currently have Zebra 0.93b
packaged here: http://www.eric.kiser.com/download.htm . You will need the
zebra.lrp and the ospfd.lrp packages. One word of warning: If you need the
MD5 authentication feature my package does not include that patch. It also
does not include the recent updates from Peter Mueller, particularly the
/etc/init.d so you will have to restart the demon by hand from the command
prompt whenever you reboot.

Keep us posted on your progress.

Regards,
Eric Kiser


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what version zebra are you using at that time ?

i got my hands om a zebra.lrp (0.91a)from
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/wolffang/

but i see zebra have come to 0.93b

is there a stable alternative to zebra ?

mvh
Ronny Aasen
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Good to hear :)

this first setup will be 5 ospf linux bering zebra's running current
hardware (3c905 nic's)

most boxes is simple 2 intreface
but one will be a 4 interface with 1 uplink, 1 connection to a large
nationwide network (but no Inet), 1 ospf network and 1 regular network
(default-gw)

sonn after there will be cisco boxes, win-nt firewalls (fw-1, symantec
raptor,etc ) and more 'alien' hardware also

what is the latest lrp'd zebra version ? or do you ppl make you'r own ?

mvh
Ronny Aasen

> Most of the problems with OSPF seem to be misconfiguration at this point.
> There were problems with MD5 authentication which have been resolved and
> some hardware problems that had nothing to do with Zebra that have also
been
> resolved.
>
> For configuration help check out this site: http://pilot.org.ua/zebra/
>
> Here are the responses that I have received so far and a bit of research
> from the archives listed at the bottom...
>
> [Tim Bulger]
> Sorry, this isn't exactly what you're looking for, but I've been running
> zebra OSPF in VPN networks that span the globe since mid-2000 with no
> significant complaints.  The zebra boxes coexist peaceably with Cisco,
> Foundry, Alcatel, Cabletron, possibly others.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Tim
> [Tim Bulger]
>
> [Stephane Bortzmeyer]
> If you want to do simple things, you'll probably have no problems. We are
> very
> happy with Zebra's OSPF.
>
> Things I noticed on that mailing list were often OS-specific:
>
> * some Linux drivers (Broadcom cards) have problems with multicast (and it
> is
> worse if you have VLANs),
> * BSD systems have problems with routing (the OSPF /32 route to itself
being
> blindly followed, lack of a default route making BSD believe it cannot
> multicast, etc)
> [/Stephane Bortzmeyer]
>
> [Paul Cammidge]
> interestingly, a few people complained about problems with the broadcom
> network cards, and the latest linux kernel includes a fix for this
> driver.  i dont know whether the fix is relates to the same problem.
>
> paul
> [/Paul Cammidge]
>
> [Tesfaye Tariku]
>
> Sorry you are in the  XYZ comp.   (:->)
> I think you need to look at variables that have impact on packet
forwarding.
> If the iptables or ipchains is not setup to allow the input/output
> to forward packets to the intended systems, no matter how you setup the
> ospf, you will be confined in the same box, assuming that you haven't
setup
> your box world accessible, which of course, your system may not last long.
> If you are sure that the setup of ospf is correct but its not doing as
> intended,
> look other variables - iptables (or ipchains), PAM (if pam enabled zebra
> setup exist in your system), SSH, SSL.
> You need to look at these variables, which have significant impact on
> packet i/o. At least it has a tendency to create unstability to the ospf
> system.
> I think the zebra/ospf on the beta phase showed great potential and I
don't
> think I'm with you on that. You may need to look at your own ospf setup as
> well.
> Good luck
> TT
> [/Tesfaye Tariku]
>
> +++Here are some other posts that have appeared within the last couple of
> months. -ek
>
> [Jean-Francois Laforest]
> I've been running OSPF (with zebra) for 2 months now, and from what I
> noticed, there has been no problem whatsoever with MD5 authentication,
> but sometimes when a link dies, it takes a little while to see it back
> up. Other than that, it's rock solid. I have over 9 routers locally and
> we have over 20 routers on our VPN. I will ask around to see if others
> got problems, for me it runs fine on Linux and FreeBSD. Zebra also does
> work fine with cisco routers.
>
> [/Jean-Francois Laforest]
>
> [Paul Jakma]
> On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Vladimir I. wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > It's been more than half a year since I was forced to move away
> > from OSPF to RIPv2 due to bugs in Zebra's OSPF implementation.
> > Has the situation improved? I understand that Zebra's official
> > CVS sees very small change nowadays, however what about Paul
> > Jakma's releases?
>
> Actually, a lot of those fixes are now in CVS. Plus others which were
> applied directly.
>
> > My problem was that OSPF often didn't re-establish adjency after
> > link failures (e.g., got stuck in various states before FULL). At
> > least partly that was attributed to a bug in MD5 authentication,
> > which AFAIK is resolved now.
>
> Should be, thanks to Greg Troxel.
>
> The other thing to try is (if using MD5):
>
>
>
http://people.ie.alphyra.com/~paulj/zebra/20021111/patches/zebra-ospfd-md5au
> th-seqnum.patch
>
> without it, if 2 routers were adjacent for x amount of time, then they
> will take x amount of time to reestablish adjacency should one ospfd
> be restarted.
>
> > Anybody running Zebra's OSPF on a network with 5+ routers?
>
> Yes. http://people.ie.alphyra.com/~paulj/zebra/20021111.
>
> There are a couple of Opaque LSA fixes in CVS too.
>
> regards,
> --
> Paul Jakma
> [/Paul Jakma]
>
> [Stephane Bortzmeyer]
> On Sunday 9 February 2003, at 17 h 41,
> "Vladimir I." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > My problem was that OSPF often didn't re-establish adjency after
> > link failures (e.g., got stuck in various states before FULL). At
> > least partly that was attributed to a bug in MD5 authentication,
> > which AFAIK is resolved now. Anybody running Zebra's OSPF on a
> > network with 5+ routers?
>
> We do, in production, and I did not notice this sort of problems (but we
are
> lucky, we have few link failures). We do not use MD5 auth.
> [/Stephane Bortzmeyer]
>
> [John Frazier]
> Been running Zebra/ospfd/bgpd in production in our network for several
> years now.  No problems that I can think of at all.  I don't use MD5 auth
> however because there is no need in our environment.  simple-password auth
> does just fine.
> [/John Frazier]
>
> If you want to verify this informationyou can go to
> http://www.zebra.org/mailing.html and click on marc.theaimsgroup.com then
do
> a search for ospf.
>
> Regards,
> Eric Kiser
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric B Kiser
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 3:04 PM
> To: Ronny Aasen; leaf
> Subject: RE: [leaf-user] zebra and bering
>
>
> Hi Ronny,
>
> OSPF from Zebra is available for the current version of Bering. There is
> however some debate as the current stability of Zebra's implementation of
> OSPF. Below is a copy of the mail that I sent to the Zebra mailing list.
>
> [begin]
> Howdy all,
>
> This is a request for comment from anyone that is currently running OSPF
> successfully. The impression that some folks have is that OSPF is a bit
> flaky at this point. However, I seem to remember a post from John stating
> that he has OSPF running on his network and has not had any significant
> problems with it. Also, If we have some folks with problems and others
that
> don't, what is the discrepancy? I am looking for something along the lines
> of... If you want to do A, B, C, then it is fine. But, if you want to do
X,
> Y, and Z, then you will likely run into trouble.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Eric Kiser
> [/end]
>
> I will put together whatever information I get back from them and post the
> results to the list.
>
> Regards,
> Eric Kiser
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ronny Aasen
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:47 AM
> To: leaf
> Subject: [leaf-user] zebra and bering
>
>
>
> hello
>
> i have just been given a limit of 15 days to convert my berings into
> OSPF capable routers, either by software or new boxes.
> I love linux/bering and would prefer to do this with a zebra package.
>
> is there anyone on this list that have implemented zebra in a bering
> router. (is it possible, or will i need to go to a 2.2.x kernel based
> distro)
>
> mvh
> Ronny Aasen
>
>
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