>Question: What would be the best VPN package to use ?
>CIPE, IPSEC, something else ??? 
I recommend IPSEC. It is secure and easily managed. I have been running 
numerous IPSEC VPNs from LEAF boxes for years with no problem. These VPNs 
are not just Bering-Bering but also to Cisco and Nortel VPN concentrators, 
Cisco routers, and Check Point firewalls.

>Also - We are "considering" using IP Telephony to tie together the
>phone systems. 

I have an IP phone in my home office running over an IPSEC tunnel 
(Bering-Bering) that runs with absolutely no problem. Even heavy traffic 
loads on the VPN do not cause voice problems.

>The phone vendor recommends getting a
>managed VPN from some provider to ensure quality phone conversations,
>I guess by maintaining and managing the bandwidth between the
>endpoints ... but I am not sure.  If we opt for this option, does it take
>the place of the VPN, so that the provider is doing the VPN part ?
>Any interoperable issues with this setup with Bering ?

If you plan on using Bering on one end why would you use a managed service 
on the other? With a managed service both ends typically managed by the 
same provider. The managed service option is in theory worry free. Many 
corporations use them. A lot of long distance providers offer managed VPNs 
along with their service. You might want to check with your company's LD 
carrier. 

Personally I'd opt for Bering. It is inexpensive and easily managed. If 
you have a Linux server available you can use SNMP to collect data from 
the VPN end points and display the information on a web page. I have 
configured such a server and monitor many VPNs from a single page. All of 
the VPN information (including configuration info) is available to me from 
a modified version of Weblet. I secure everything by passing all 
management traffic through it's own VPN tunnel. If you are interested in 
how it's done just let me know. 
--
Roger McClurg 



Best Regards,

Roger McClurg
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