On Thursday 13 May 2004 09:51 am, Calvin Webster wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 23:06, Lynn Avants wrote:

> That's right. According to the ExtremeWare XOS Concepts Guide (at
> http://www.extremenetworks.com/services/documentation/swuserguides.asp),
> the software performs as a virtual router, allowing one physical switch
> to be split into several virtual routers. It runs on their "Black
> Diamond 10K" switches.

Which pretty much does *not* make it a switch at all.
I hate it when companies don't use the correct teminology.


> > > NW quotes Extreme as saying "modifications were made in the Linux
> > > kernel to improve the packet forwarding capabilities of the software,
> > > as well as hardening its security...".
> >
> > Hmmm....
> >
> > > They also say that "Extreme says that in accordance with the GPL, it
> > > will be pushing its changes to Linux back to the open-source
> > > community".
> >
> > That is always a plus. :)
>
> Yes, in more ways than one - The more widespread commercial Linux
> offerings there are, the more accepted related open source projects will
> be in the enterprise.

True, but the hardening likely has to do with the limiting of normal options
of the kernel itself due to compiling outside of a true patch like grsecurity
releases (that LEAF distro's use as well).


> > > I'm wondering what LEAF developers think about this?
> >
> > Sounds like they're attempting to take on Cisco.
>
> I've viewed Extreme Networks as a serious contender for some time now.
> I'm sure they are on Cisco's radar screen. Cisco is probably more
> worried about 3Com, though, since they have a more mature enterprise
> support structure and reputation.

They probably are on the radar screen. After Linksys started using Linux,
Cisco immediately bought them out. I doubt they are worried about 3com
as most of their units are running a scaled-down version of Cisco's IOS.


> > > The article also mentioned how pleased developers of the XORP project
> > > were. There was a previous article posted about that project too. Can
> > > someone tell me if/how XORP and LEAF are related? Do they share
> > > resources or benefit from one another's work?
> >
> > To my knowledge XORP and LEAF are not related in any way outside of
> > using the linux kernel.
>
> Too bad, I'm reading about progress in both projects. Although their
> design goals differ significantly, both might benefit from some level of
> collaboration.

Possibly so, outside of LEAF being primarily developed by volunteers in their
free time. 
-- 
~Lynn Avants
Linux Embedded Appliance Firewall Developer
http://leaf.sourceforge.net
http://guitarlynn.homelinux.org:81


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