On 02/09/2011 10:48, Rob Seaman wrote:
The idea that's been put forth is that the transition would be made all at 
once.  Eastern Time zone would go from TI-5 to TI-4, most likely by failing to 
fallback one year in the fall.
Exercise for the class:  Which is it?  Will the governments act separately or 
together?  How will governments north and south of the equator coordinate given 
that daylight saving time occurs in the local summertime during opposing 
seasons?  Etc and so forth.

Ummm, no coordination is necessary, although some will likely naturally occur. Eastern Time is purely a US construct that Canada also uses. Since the central governments of US and Canada set the time for the whole country, I'd imagine that they'd coordinate like they did with the last round of date changes for DST. Or not, if they aren't so friendly in a few hundred years. So what is Brazil does or doesn't follow: that's a question for Brazil to answer when they consider the issue. They have different DST rules anyway, including making special exceptions to the rule when they discovered that election machines couldn't have their time changed.

To get a good feel for the mess that the current timezones are, it might be enlightening to go and read the various TZdata files that comprise the Olson database. http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm is a good starting point for exploration.

The folks on this list appear to have reached consensus that some mechanism 
(whatever it is) is required for managing leap-second-equivalents.  The ITU 
draft includes no planning for such.  Do they disagree with all the diverse 
voices on this list?  Or do they merely find it more expedient to ignore the 
whole thing - for a season or a day or a century - and to leave their mess for 
their grandchildren to clean up?  (Current astronomers, etc., would of course 
have to deal with the consequences immediately since it will break all our 
software.)

The speculation on the list is that in the absence of a central authority, local governments will act as their people request when it is staying dark too late and parents can't get their kids to bed with the sun still shining, or have to drive to work in the dark too many days of the year. There's a natural force here that pushes the governments, each at their own pace, to implement the change. Given this natural push, and the complete chaos of timezones today, it is natural to think this is a good solution to the problem.

I think there's wide consensus on that point (eg, what would likely happen). I don't think there's anything approaching consensus on the wisdom of this route: I like it, you don't with very few agnostic views among the others that I've seen.

Warner
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