On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Gerard Ashton wrote:

> On 9/20/2011 11:24 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>> In message<[email protected]>, Gerard Ashton writes:
>>> On 9/20/2011 5:53 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>>> Earth orientation is one factor in the time of sunrise and sunset, and
>>> that is important
>>> at perhaps minute precision for many purposes, such as avoiding
>>> violation of laws
>>> regarding turning on automobile headlights, and the taking of game.
>> Show one single court-case, where the exact time of sunrise or
>> sunset has been a crucial factor, with a precision better than three
>> minutes, and I'll belive you.
>> 
> I have no way to document the hunters who refrained from taking a deer one 
> minute after
> what the hunter believed to be the legal hunting hours expired.

The hunters in the US that I know that deal with sunrise/sunset laws deal with 
it by going "Yup, I could still see, sun must have been up." or "No, it was 
starting to get a little dark."  I don't know anybody that's out in the back 
country with sunrise/sunset tables and a watch that's accurate to more than 5 
minutes unless they are using one of these new-fangled GPS receivers.

Then again the laws about hunting in the US that I'm familiar with tend to be 
dusk/dawn laws not sunrise/sunset laws.  Mostly because sunset is hard to 
observe in the bottom of a valley with irregular mountains all around, but dusk 
is easier to know (which likely explains the "heck, it ain't dark, I didn' t 
need a flashlight to see the deer well enough to shoot it" attitude).

Warner

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