On 2014-01-18 01:14 PM, Peter Vince wrote:
Stephen Scott has just mentioned his involvement in the TV industry in the USA, with its problematical 29.97 Hz frame-rate.

Lets not propogate the notion of a "29.97 Hz" rate, especially in the the context of this LEAP_SECS list. "29.97" is a commonly used NAME, shorthand for the correct NTSC rate - 30000/1001 Hz. This inaccurate representation has been the source of much confusion and bad implementations over the years.

I also work in the TV industry, but in the UK where we are lucky to have a nice integer 25 Hz rate.
But that 25 doesn't divide evenly very well :-)

Although historically we still had a problem with leap seconds, as the 625 PAL system had a 4-frame ("8-field") sequence (due to the exact colour subcarrier frequency being offset from a multiple of line frequency to avoid static patterning on monochrome displays), and so there were three and one-eighth of these 4-frame sequences per second. When editing, this frame-sequence had to be maintained, else there would be a small sideways jump when the replay machine kept the signal synchronous with the colour subcarrier phase.

Anyway... those problems have largely gone away now that we have stopped broadcasting the analogue PAL signal.

The "we" you're referring to is Europe, I think, but other parts of the world are still broadcasting analogue. Standards rarely escape their own legacy.


I was wondering if Stephen, or anyone else, has any information about the possibility of 60 Hz countries changing the nasty NTSC-based 29.97 Hz frame rate to a nice integer 30 Hz rate, as I believe analogue has also all but been switched off in the USA too (no knowledge of other 60 Hz countries.)

Say "good morning" to the four emperors - UTC, film (24hz), PAL, and NTSC.

-Brooks


     Regards,

          Peter Vince



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