On Jan 19, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Stephen Colebourne wrote:

> On 19 January 2014 15:34, Daniel R. Tobias <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 18 Jan 2014 at 19:51, Warner Losh wrote:
>> 
>>> Of course, the 6 month window does make it impossible to compute a time_t 
>>> for a known
>>> interval into the future that's longer than 6 months away...
>> 
>> What are the applications that actually need to schedule events more
>> than 6 months in the future that need to be precisely synchronized to
>> civil time at a resolution of under a second? Gee, I might miss the
>> plane for the airline reservation I made 7 months in advance if I
>> show up one second late! (Actually, both myself and the airline, if
>> we care about this level of detail, will have adjusted our
>> clocks/watches by flight day, including any leap seconds in the
>> interim, and I'll be right on time.)
> 
> If you want to store a time in the future its best to focus on the
> local time. In API terms, a UTC class is best representing data using
> two numbers, typically modified-julian-day + second-of-day. Stored
> like that, the announcement of a leap second doesn't generally affect
> things. ie. Separation of the concept of day/date from time-of-day is
> a Good Thing for most users.
> 
> When such concepts were in Java's JSR-310, I concluded that you needed
> to have both TAI and UTC to provide full user control. TAI so a user
> could schedule something n SI seconds in the future and UTC to
> schedule something more sensibly. Eventually we concluded that most
> users just don't care/know enough about TAI/UTC/leaps, so we removed
> them.

You had me all the way until the last sentence...  s/removed/hid for power 
users/ would have been much better outcome. But I do understand that it seems 
to be part of the prevailing attitudes today...

Warner
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