On Feb 9, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Warner Losh <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Feb 9, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Rob Seaman wrote:
>> If anything has prevented leap seconds from death it is the weakness of the 
>> proposal itself.  And the real-world distinction between Universal Time and 
>> Atomic Time; "Death to leap seconds!" is the rallying cry of somebody who 
>> wants to pretend that two distinct concepts are the same thing.
> 
> It is more of a 'Atomic Time is a completely adequate basis for civil time' 
> by rejecting the notion that exact alignment to snyodic day is a requirement. 
> Apart from some naming sophistry, that's the root of all the discussions and 
> disagreements here.

There’s a lot that could be said in response, but I’ll just point to the 
proceedings of the Charlottesville and Exton meetings:

        http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/futureofutc/preprints/
        http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/futureofutc/2011/preprints/

and to various links including the archives of this and the original leapsecs 
mailing lists:

        http://futureofutc.org/links.html

There is also a link to the ISO position on terminology.  And, of course, it 
isn't "exact alignment" that would be sacrificed, but any alignment at all.  
Like I said, it is an attempt to confuse two different concepts.

Rob


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