> On Jan 28, 2015, at 2:33 AM, Martin Burnicki <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Warner Losh schrieb:
>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 7:18 PM, Steve Allen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue 2015-01-27T21:41:17 +0000, Matsakis, Demetrios hath writ:
>>>> Equally unfortunate is that 30 servers in the NTP pool inserted a
>>>> leap second last Dec 31.
>>> 
>>> There is no action that the ITU-R can take which will change this kind
>>> of misbehavior in these already-deployed systems.
>>> 
>>> Therefore this is irrelevant to the activities which will happen at
>>> ITU-R WRC-15, and I don't think that misdirecting attention will help
>>> the ITU-R decide what to do.
>> 
>> One of the arguments against leap seconds  are that they are hard to get 
>> right.
>> How many machines inserted an April 31st by mistake? Has an error like that
>> ever happened? No. Or more likely, has anybody thought it was Feb 29th in
>> a non-leap year? No. There have been some applications that mistakenly though
>> Y2K wasn’t a leap year. And there were some issues with the Zune music 
>> player.
>> And there was that unfortunate Feb 30th incident, but that was in a 
>> transition
>> to Gregorian… :)
>> 
>> By comparison, the list of mistaken leap second issues is legion… Isn’t that
>> relevant to the practicability of any standard under discussion? Or am I 
>> missing
>> your point?
> 
> So similarly, if there are faulty DNS or DHCP servers around, should these 
> services be abolished instead of fixing the source of the problem? ;-)

I think you’re making a false equivalency argument here. While DNS and DHCP can 
go awry, the frequency is quite a bit lower than bogus leap second 
announcements. There’s no single, systemic failure with DHCP or DNS like there 
is with a mistaken notion of leap seconds.

Fixing the source of the problem, leap seconds existing, though does sound like 
an excellent idea :)

Warner
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