On 4 May 2016 at 23:19, tapper <j.lanc...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > On 04/05/2016 21:01, mbm wrote: >> >> Dear OpenWrt community, >> >> It is with a great amount of surprise that, like all of you, we read >> about the announcement of the LEDE project yesterday, as there was no >> prior announcement nor clues this would happen. >> >> While we recognize the current OpenWrt project suffers from a number of >> issues outlined by Jo-Philip, in each of the 5 bullet points, we do not >> agree with the conclusions withdrawn, and even less so in deciding to >> spin off the OpenWrt project in the first place as a way to fix the >> project and its community. Also, the phrases such as a "reboot" are both >> vague and misleading and the LEDE project failed to identify its true >> nature. The LEDE announcement contains a number of very valid points >> which we hoped we had an opportunity to discuss and attempt to fix, in a >> public manner, before this more radical outcome. At this point, the >> email as well as actions taken are very confusing to a lot of us. >> >> OpenWrt is primarily developed by individuals who may have a day job >> more or less related to the purpose or the technologies of the project, >> but who strive to maintain OpenWrt as independent as possible from any >> company, organization or interest group, thus maintaining its own >> infrastructure (website, forums, mailing-lists, bugtracker...), which >> has been usually at the heart of all debates. >> >> We do acknowledge there has been internal disagreements, on several >> occasions about some directions of the project, about the release model, >> the lack of testing, the centralized infrastructure, however, there have >> been actual work going on under the hoods to solve things one step at a >> time, starting with a more decentralized infrastructure, which was >> discussed with the LEDE developers as well. >> >> At this point, we do not have much to offer to the LEDE developers but >> to encourage them to publicly discuss on >> openwrt-de...@lists.openwrt.org the different items we should all be >> fixing together, and avoid spinning off so that all decisions can be >> taken with the community's involvement, and accountability and >> transparency can rule us as one community. >> >> As a user, developer, contributor, or just community member, whatever >> choice you make, keep the choice that matters to you: the ability to >> utilize superior quality open source software to power whatever embedded >> device that matters to you! >> >> We would like to stress that we do want to have an open discussion and >> resolve matters at hand. Our goal is to work with all parties who can >> and want to contribute to OpenWrt, including the LEDE team. >> >> Sincerely, >> Your OpenWrt team >> ______________ > > > But just who is "Your OpenWrt team?" > After all the talk about fixing the website and the forum we as the openwrt > end users got jack shit! Even wen we offered to do things for you. >
Probably one of the problems is that not all read all communication channels. I think that developers are more used to mailing list. Blaming only those who left doesn't make any sense, IMO all are responsible. Regards, Roman _______________________________________________ Lede-dev mailing list Lede-dev@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-dev
