2009/5/1 Derek Mahar <[email protected]>:
>
> On May 1, 5:54 pm, Derek Mahar <[email protected]> wrote:
>> How do you specify an opening balance for an income or expense
>> account?
>
> The specific case that I'm considering is how to specify the account
> opening balances as a result of a loan to a friend after that friend
> has already made one or more payments, each of which includes both
> interest and principal.  For example, suppose that in January of this
> year I loaned $500 to a friend and since then, my friend has already
> repaid $200 plus $10 in interest.  How do I specify the opening
> balance transaction on May 1 so that I take both the principal and
> interest payments into account?
>
> Derek

When you give the loan, the transaction will be something like:
Dr (debit) Loan $500
Cr (credit) Cash $500
So, you take $500 out of cash, and give it to your friend.

Suppose your friend pays you $210 at the end of April, being $200
repayment of principal, and $10 interest. The double-entry would be:
Dr Cash $210
Cr InterestRecd $10
Cr Loan $200

So, the Loan will show a debit balance of $300 - which is the
principal outstanding. This is correct.


Suppose, as at 1 Jan 2009, you had $1000 cash, and to balance this you
had an "equity" balance of $1000 to exactly match this. I doubt I
would call it equity if it were a personal set of accounts. I just use
the term Open for my own set of accounts ... it is an accumulated
balance brought forward.

Now, suppose I were to create an "extended trial balance" as at 30 Apr
2009. It would look like this:


Cash   710 (debit balance)
IntRecd -10
Loan   300
Open -1000

Debits are positive, credits are negative. Note that the sum total of
the above is 0. This is what we expect if we've done our double-entry
bookkeeping correctly.

If I wanted to "close off" the accounts at the end of Apr 2009, so
that I started with a fresh P&L account at 1 May, then I would shift
all the P&L items to the opening balance. So I would debit IntRecid
with 10, and credit Open. My new extended trial balance would look
like this:

Cash 710
Loan 300
Open -1010

The sum total is 0. Hurrah. My yin still balances my yang, and the
eternal Tao is in harmony.

In terms of a profit and loss account for the period 1 jan 2009 to 30
apr 2009, it might look like this:

Interest received    10
                           -----
Profit for period       10
                          ====

... a fairly bland P&L. If I were to produce a balance sheet for that
date (meaning 30 apr), it might look like this:

Loans to friends   300
Cash on hand      710
                          ------
Balance  c/d        1010
                         ====

Represented by:
Balance B/d      1000
Profit for period     10
                        ------
Balance c/d       1010
                        ====

The UK and US tend to show their balance sheets slightly differently,
and you can do all sorts of slicing and dicing depending on whether
you think loans/liabilities are long or short, whether you have equity
accounts, and all sorts.

Hope that helps.

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