Hi all! I got to do some thinking over a few days offline and wanted to share some thoughts. I may ramble a bit.
First, an apology. John, I'm sorry for being an annoyance on #ledger last friday. As a "house guest" on Ledger's IRC channel, I always try to watch what I say. I picked a bad time to mention hledger, and to trigger a conversation about relative bugginess. Sorry about that. The resulting chat, not publicly logged unfortunately, was quite useful however: I learned that for some, hledger's web presence says "one guy's haskell experiments, not real dependable financial software". (Excellent feedback.) Next I learned that opinions of mine such as 1. Ledger users continue to experience a lot of bugs[1], and 2. hledger is successfully providing a less buggy (less featureful, less performant) experience are not generally accepted as the current state of things (gasp!). In fact they are controversial. Controversy isn't always fun, but I think quality - let's say "quality of users' experience" - is an important topic that doesn't get enough attention. We might be doing a disservice to users by avoiding it. Avoiding it also makes it harder for me to explain why hledger exists and is worthwhile. I don't want to talk about Ledger issues - I am making and fixing new ones of my own, instead - but if it comes up in the right context in future - say, an exploration here of objective quality measurements, or a data-based matrix comparing the ledger-likes - I'll try to be more plain-spoken. Maybe we should even stimulate a little more friendly competition among the ledger-likes, for fun and for the greater good ? More competition can be a greater cooperation. Also, reluctantly but with fair confidence I'm pretty sure it's time for hledger to get its own home on IRC. I need a channel where it is always on-topic and I can blather about it day and night, run noisy bots, noisy code review parties, use the topic and so on. Having two *ledger channels will complicate life a little, but in other ways it will simplify. More on this soon I expect. -Simon [1] Warning: trigger word open to different interpretations. Think "problems a user encounters", such as segfaults but also docs that don't match observed behaviour. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
