Save yourself some pain: Flush your brain from the "debit" and "credit"
terminology.

Your have accounts. Period. All accounts are treated the same from the
calculation point of view, that is, amounts get "posted" to them. Think:
the number gets added to the balance at that date. The balance is simply
the sum of all postings to that account. It doesn't matter which type of
account it is.

The double-entry idea is that the sum of all postings on a transaction must
equal zero. It's a simple constraint.

So those equations become much simpler:

  The sum of postings of each transaction = 0
  Therefore, the sum of all postings = 0
  And finally, even if you group the postings in arbitrary ways, the sum of
all of them still = 0

Now, you can label accounts with one of five categories: Assets,
Liabilities, Income, Expenses, Equity.
If "Assets" stands for "the sum of all postings labeled with 'Asset'",
these are just subgroups of all postings.
Therefore,

  Assets + Liabilities + Equity + Income + Expenses = 0

If you define Equity' = (Equity + Income + Expenses), you obtain

  Assets + Liabilities + Equity' = 0

If you render a detail of the balances for these accounts, this is called a
"balance sheet."
If you render the detail of just the (Income + Expenses) accounts, this is
called an "income statement."

In this worldview, the balance of these accounts has a "usual" or "normal"
sign, e.g., an Asset is usually positive, Liabilities will be negative.
Income will be normally negative (it counts the dollar equivalent of work
you gave away in exchange for an asset), Expenses will be positive (they
count the dollar equivalent of goods and services you obtained in exchange
for something you gave).

The problem - and the genesis for all this credits & debits craziness - is
that one doesn't usually talk about their credit card or mortgage balance
using a negative number. All accounts are talked about using a positive
variant. "I have a $100,000 mortgage" means "I owe $100,000" which really
is the same as "I have -$100,000" (the latter view is how Ledger sees it).
Accountants and people talk about positive amounts. Log into your bank
website and check your balance: it'll be a positive number, yet, that's
something you owe. For Ledger, that's a negative number.

This is why in regular accounting people talk about "a debit account" or a
"credit account". And then you get sentences like "debiting from a credit
account"; and while you can train yourself and reason these things out, do
this for a few hours while trying to figure out where the 1c off-balance
amount comes from in a large book and your mind explodes. Anyhow, if you
define the always-positive variants of those accounts as the symbols
Assets+, Liabilities+, Equity+, Income+, Expenses+, etc. now you get the
equations you're talking about:

  Assets+ = Liabilities+ + Equity+

We don't need this. Free yourself. Just learn this once and for all to work
with Ledger and you're golden:

- Assets usually has a positive balance
- Liabilities usually has a negative balance
- Equity usually has a negative balance
- Income usually has a negative balance
- Expenses usually has a positive balance

That's all you have to know. Now you can just treat all accounts the same.
Done!

The last thing is: If you read an accounting text, you need to keep this in
mind. But once you do understand the above... honestly everything becomes
ridiculously simpler. (I hope you had an ah-ah! moment a some point reading
the above. I hope this helps.)




On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 2:30 PM, thail <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, I am just getting started with ledger but am confused by how ledger
> treats income.
>
> As I understand it, double entry accounting all derives from the equation:
>
> Assets/Property = Claims against Assets/Property
>
> Expanded several times:
>
> Assets = Liabilities + Equity     (the two types of claim against assets)
>
> Changes in equity are the net effect of its sub-categories: investment +
> income - expenses - draws
>
> Assets = Liabilities + Starting Equity + Income + Investment - Expenses -
> Draws  (the expanded accountancy equation)
>
> Anything that tilts that equation clockwise is a credit and anything that
> tilts it anti-clockwise is a debit.  Hence every credit must have a debit.
>
>
> And so finally:  Ledger handles income by debiting the cash asset account,
> and also debiting an income account.  This just doesn't work in my head --
> how can the account be a true income account?
>
> I need help reconciling the idea of moving currencies on which ledger is
> based and the accountancy equation.
>
> Hopefully I have just made a dumb error and it's a quick fix.
>
> T
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