First of all, thanks for the initiative Simon, I've been reading the other
posts and I think it's a good idea to start collecting our knowledge in an
easier to find and maintain way. I'll give my thoughts on it and let's see
what the community decides.

First of all, ways of contributing. I believe most of us (maybe all) are
developers of some kind or at least very comfortable with computers. I'm a
web developer with PHP and JS (React, front-end and node) as my strong
points, so when it comes to actually building something, I'd like to help.

I think you have a good initial structure already and if we could name it
nicely it would definitely be a plus. Since SEO for ledger is quite hard.
I'll add my votes to your list, here, it might be worth making a little
poll later. Depending on how many people manifest their opinions:

Without "ledger" in the name:
-----------------------------

plaintextaccounting +1
A fundamental characteristic of all ledger-likes, so far.
Understandable and inviting.

*my personal favourite, but I'm unsure as to excluding the ledger word
since all software have ledger in their names.*

functionalaccounting
Another fundamental characteristic, though not universal.
Less clear, more scary, requires explanation.

With "ledger" in the name:
--------------------------

ledgerhub
Familiar and clear, in the github era.
Martin has a retired tool called LedgerHub and is against reusing the
name (but might be persuadable if we all asked very very nicely).

plaintextledger +1
*Same as plaintextaccounting in meaning but has the ledger word in it.*

plaintextledgers

ledgerworld

ledgerlikes

ledger-likes

ledgerlike

Possibly too Ledger-specific-sounding:
--------------------------------------

introtoledger

welcometoledger

ledgerguide

ledgeriseasy


Hope this goes well. I'd love to see more use cases and tips on how to
improve my own ledger setup.

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On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 at 17:41 Simon Michael <[email protected]> wrote:

> Continuing the "new docs site, anyone ?" thread. I've called it "portal
> site" this time to suggest a landing and jump-off page, rather than a
> reworking of existing docs (an interesting but separate topic).
>
> I have an itch and a vision for this, so I guess I'll go ahead and
> scratch it, briefly. I'd love for others to jump on board, so I'd like
> to do this in a way y'all, including you John, Martin B, and other
> project leads, approve of and will help with. Hence all this brainstorming.
>
> But, I also need to throw something up quick while the motivation is
> strong. At minimum, I'll end up with a links page that's useful for me;
> that's still good. So I'm gathering content notes on this etherpad page
> - all help is most welcome!
>
>
> https://oasis.sandstorm.io/shared/UAYLwagGI0a2pIMg9Hhv74K04nbuxanXiS5ZtBV6NF-
>
> That's an unmemorable url, so I'd like to replace it asap. I will soon
> pick something temporary, and change it when we decide on something better.
>
> The goals listed there right now are:
>
> - a good introductory landing page for newcomers to the world of
> ledger-likes
> - a good roadmap to all ledger-likes, their docs, and useful generic
> docs, emails, blog posts
> - covers all ledger-likes neutrally
> - easy to find, spell, remember
> - easily and actively maintained; no stale/unmaintained bits
> - renders robustly across devices
> - visually attractive
>
> So, back to the naming discussion. I need a domain name suitable for the
> above, that most of us like! Here are some possibilities and comments.
> Please suggest more, and/or, if you feel ready, name your first and
> second preference. (In all cases, the suffix is assumed to be .org
> unless you say otherwise).
>
> Without "ledger" in the name:
> -----------------------------
>
> plaintextaccounting
> A fundamental characteristic of all ledger-likes, so far.
> Understandable and inviting.
>
> functionalaccounting
> Another fundamental characteristic, though not universal.
> Less clear, more scary, requires explanation.
>
> With "ledger" in the name:
> --------------------------
>
> ledgerhub
> Familiar and clear, in the github era.
> Martin has a retired tool called LedgerHub and is against reusing the
> name (but might be persuadable if we all asked very very nicely).
>
> plaintextledger
>
> plaintextledgers
>
> ledgerworld
>
> ledgerlikes
>
> ledger-likes
>
> ledgerlike
>
> Possibly too Ledger-specific-sounding:
> --------------------------------------
>
> introtoledger
>
> welcometoledger
>
> ledgerguide
>
> ledgeriseasy
>
>
> Thanks for reading this far. :)
> -Simon
>
>
>
>
> On 2/7/16 8:44 AM, Simon Michael wrote:
> > We have a lot of docs, in various states of freshness, specific to each
> > implementation. Also many informative blog and mail list posts. Much of
> > this is hard to find.
> >
> > Reading Stefano's recent ledger list post, I think, not for the first
> > time, wouldn't it be great if we had all of this linked somewhere
> > central, curated, and presented beautifully, providing an easy on-ramp
> > and reference for newcomers and experts ? Actively maintained by the
> > community ?
> >
> > If so, where would that somewhere be ? ledger-cli.org and/or its wiki is
> > the closest existing candidate, but it has never felt right to load that
> > up with non-Ledger stuff. I think it's valuable for each implementation
> > to have its own distinct site. I think a separate, well-named, highly
> > findable site, even a single page collecting all useful links and acting
> > as a portal to the ledgerverse, could be a win.
> >
> > If you agree, what would you call it ? Martin, since you are retiring
> > your LedgerHub tool, would that name be available ?
> >
> >
> > Related to naming.. what do we call this whole topic, anyway ? Stefano
> > used the phrase "command-line accounting". But we have curses and web
> > GUIs too. "Plain-text accounting" ? Pretty soon we'll probably support
> > some non-text storage format. "Ledger clones" ? Too narrow. Aside: in
> > conversation, I use "ledger-likes" for things similar to but not
> > necessarily compatible with Ledger (ledger, hledger beancount, abandon,
> > penny) and "*ledger" for very compatible ledger-likes (ledger, hledger).
> >
> > Any thoughts ?
>
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