Am Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2017 23:03:13 UTC+1 schrieb Taylor R Campbell:
>
> > Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 13:45:19 -0800 (PST) 
> > From: Johann Höchtl <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> > 
> > I discovered the excellent guide  on how to structure shared expenses 
> > https://mumble.net/~campbell/2017/02/26/ledger/HOWTO-sharedexpense 
> > and extended it so that a transaction keyword can be used to declare 
> which 
> > expenses to share and which not. See the gist here: 
> > 
> > https://gist.github.com/the42/52f2be2874cf7158f2496dba9a2a21ae 
>
> Cool, glad to see you found that useful! 
>
> > However, this isn't doing exactly I want it to do. 
> > 
> > First: This ledger file is mine. If I would not work with shared 
> expenses, 
> > I would pay things like Expenses:Housing ... out of Assets:Bank:Checking 
> or 
> > Liability:Mastercard instead of Person:Johann. 
> > 
> > [...] 
> > 
> > How can I continue to have an overview who owns whom what amount when 
> > mixing shared and non-shared expenses? 
>
> One way you can do this is by just keeping two separate ledgers -- one 
> from the perspective of the house, and one from your individual 
> perspective.  That way you can use HOWTO-sharedexpense verbatim, and 
> you can also hand off the ledger to the next treasurer of the house. 
>
I am really new to "personal" accounting and ledger-cli in particular. But 
that would mean that these two ledgers are physically and logically 
separated? So if I pay the water bill I would have 

* in my very personal ledger eg.

2017/12/05 * Water bill
  Expenses:House:Supply:Water     €50
  Assets:Bank:Checking

* in the shared ledger 
(https://mumble.net/~campbell/2017/02/26/ledger/HOWTO-sharedexpense) eg.
2017/12/05 * Water bill
  Expenses:House:Supply:Water     €50
  Person:Johann




> If you really want to keep it in one ledger with your personal 
> finances, you might be able to use two separate account trees in a 
> single ledger: one for the house's accounts, and one for your 
> individual accounts.  You can switch between them using `apply account 
> / end apply account'. 
>
> I haven't worked out the details -- you may have to figure out what 
> happens with the house Person:Johann account and maybe either alias it 
> to or balance it with transactions to your personal accounts 
> Assets:Reimbursements:House or Liabilities:House or something. 
>

So basically you mean:

2017/12/05 * Water bill
  Expenses:House:Supply:Water     €50
  Person:Johann   -1
  Person:Johann    1
  Assets:Bank:Checking
 
Is there a "shortcut" to express

2017/12/05 * Water bill
  Expenses:House:Supply:Water     €50
  Person:Johann=Assets:Bank:Checking

I would rather not include the rule where to draw assets into Person:Johann 
in the automatic transaction as I will pay expenses out from Checking, 
Credit Card or maybe cash

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