> Any session based system I've used has the issue of stale sessions,
> multiple sessions and browsers discovering 'old' sessions and using
> them. 
>   

I think it should be much less prevelant than that if the system is 
implemented well.

> The issue of timing out sessions is a tough one. There's one widely used
> application still in use at VW and Toyota that logged everyone out at
> 12am every day when it cleared it's session table. 

The error here is that the query should have been more like "DELETE from 
sessions WHERE last_updated < (NOW() - 1 hour)" - or whatever timeout 
you want to set.  I should imagine it's no different to the current 
login expiry and could presumably be tied to that anyway?

Also "locking" is usually a pain.  Much better to go for "optimistic 
locking" which means that two uses are allowed to have a go at updating 
or printing something, but one of them wins and the other gets returned 
an error.  There are no locks to prevent either of them trying right up 
to the point one of the transactions fails.  This simplifies the 
interface by not needing an unlock interface for cases of lost sessions 
(my CC payment processor does this - you can get locked out of the 
system for 15 mins if you press links in the wrong order and hence loose 
your session, but the system still thinks you are logged in - grrr)

Ed W


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