Hi.. How much bandwidth are you guys using every month?
Mvh / Best Regards
Tone Irene Andersen
From: Chris Travers
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:45 AM
To: Development discussion for LedgerSMB
Subject: Re: [Ledger-smb-devel] Moving the LedgerSMB.org website
Hi all;
I figured I should at some point add my voice to this.
First, I think it is important that we have, as a community, a strong level of
control over the site, and the fact is that being able to get Drupal modules,
etc,. installed has been difficult here for some time. Again, Command
Prompt's contributions have been invaluable and I don't want to come across as
minimizing them. Without their involvement in both the software coding,
design, web site, etc. we wouldn't be where we are today.
At the same time we have had a lot of infrastructure projects and such that we
haven't been able to take on simply because of a lack of bandwidth on CMD's
side, and this has been perpetual frustration I think on all sides including my
understanding of some complaints of Josh's. Some of these may be lower
maintenance than the web site would be and just as (or nearly as) visible. So
I don't think a move necessarily significantly harms CMD's ability to be
visible to those who are looking at LedgerSMB but haven't yet made up their
minds. The limitation as always is the amount of effort they can put into
contributing and maintaining. and I don't think the current web site is a
uniquely low hanging fruit in that regard. Indeed there may be even lower
hanging areas.
Extending the available bandwidth through allowing contributions to our
infrastructure by long-term members of the community thus seems quite wise to
me. Josh hasn't commented here. Since Josh hasn't commented here yet I don't
really know what his priority in some of these projects might be. However,
we've wanted the opportunity to move off SF.net for list management for some
time because of historical problems regarding some email providers (gmail being
the one that has had the most issues).
In response to Robert, there are also a few reasons to have as much of the
infrastructure be community hosted as possible, and look at Sourceforge as
being primarily a content distribution provider. Sourceforge's downloads
structure is such that it is easy to link these from an external CMS. The
question is largely one of maintaining the links. One important aspect is that
the more different pieces of infrastructure we have that are contributed by
different individuals, the more it advertises the size and vitality of the
community. And while it may be possible to install some of this on the
Sourceforge site, I the fact is that those of us on the core team have tended
put coding as a higher priority than some nuts and bolts aspects of
infrastructure management. So I would just as soon accept contributions in
this area from interested parties.
I think some ground rules are important however. I think that it is extremely
important to try to ensure that the core team have administrative rights to all
official ledgersmb.org software projects, and I think it is important that we
establish that those who are not able to continue must agree to transition the
site to other hosting providers gracefully. We would also need some assurance
that there is at least some general protection against unforeseen
circumstances, such as when we lost the LedgerSMB wiki on Leah Kubik's death.
Josh hasn't yet commented on this thread yet. I would like to give him a few
more days to make his opinion and interests known, given that he is on the core
team, and talk about what steps can be taken to ease impacts that such a move
would have. However, I do think such a move would be good for the project.
Finally to all those who have offered to help with the web site, such offers
are extremely welcome. I would suggest making sure that we have ways of
recognizing this effort, whether in the CONTRIBUTORS file or elsewhere. This
is an area we need to figure out. What does everyone think about this? What
is the desired way to recognize such contributors?
Best Wishes,
Chris Travers
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