Hi John,

Does the attached patch for LedgerSMB/AA.pm fix the subcent-paid
transactions showing up in the transaction summary screen?

If so, I propose we apply this and back out of the original "details is
default" patch.

How about that?

Bye,

Erik.



On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Erik Huelsmann <ehu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:46 AM, John Locke <m...@freelock.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hi, Eric,
>>
>> Oh, interesting. I think you and I are after exactly the same thing, but
>> we're starting with a different report.
>>
>> I use AR -> Reports -> Transactions (summary).
>>
>> I'm guessing you use AR -> Reports -> Outstanding (detail).
>>
>
> Yup. That's interesting indeed, because as you, I never noticed there's a
> similar report!
>
>
>> A summary report on the first is almost exactly the same as a details
>> report on the second. Almost, but not quite...
>>
>>
>> So yes, I see AR -> Reports -> Outstanding -> summary as not something I
>> need all the time -- and if it's misleading, that should get fixed.
>>
>
>
>
>>
>> AR -> Reports -> Transactions -> detail has too much detail -- it expands
>> all of the line items on invoices, so it's now much longer.
>>
>
> Right. I usually don't need that view either. And when I do, I can run
> something similar through the GJ -> Reports menu.
>
>  I'm seeing one difference between the two: Transactions is showing
>> transactions that are out of balance by a fraction of a cent (the old
>> invoices with calculated sales tax) while Outstanding omits them.
>>
>
> That's interesting as well: they should be considered closed, so, I'd say
> that the Transactions view is incorrect.
>
> In general, I must say that all these combinations make it way too easy
> for inconsistencies to creep in!
>
> Otherwise we often are using Transactions to get a customer invoice
>> history, by selecting the "closed" checkbox. For that reason alone, I would
>> like to preserve the summary default there, though I can have people switch
>> to the Outstanding report for the more typical use...
>>
>>
> Sure. I think that's a logical selection that I  do use occasionally as
> well.
>
>  I wonder if it might make sense to actually split these into 3 reports?
>> Seems like it would be confusing to have two reports lead to pretty much
>> the same thing -- both with "summary" and "detail" options that do
>> different things. What we have here are four different reports with two
>> that are the same. How about splitting into something like:
>>
>> - Invoices/Transactions (with options for open and closed, the report
>> both you and I use)
>> - Customer outstanding totals (outstanding summary, hopefully fixed to
>> only include open transactions)
>> - Items (Transaction detail report)
>>
>> Not sure the second one is necessary, with the aging report also
>> available...
>>
>>
> Right. I think the aging overlaps with the customer outstanding totals,
> when selecting "open" invoices. If you select open and closed, they differ,
> but I can see myself wanting to add a column for "closed invoices" to
> address that use case within the aging report.
>
> Also, I wonder if the third item is required, since the GJ -> Reports
> selection can be used to create a nearly equal report. The only difference
> is that the GJ->Report interface doesn't allow selecting open and/or closed
> invoices. I wonder if that's an issue in practice though.
>
> I think it would make sense to rethink these reports as part of the 1.5
> rewrite.
>
>
> However, for now: what's our next action? I can see that I might need to
> retrain users to use Transactions instead of Outstanding (Details), that
> way we don't have to change the defaults in a release that's been going for
> so long.
>
> However, then I do think we need to work on the sub-cent issue, because
> that's a regression from where I stand :-)
>
>
> @Chris: can we re-wire the transaction report to use the Outstanding
> (details) logic? after all, they should be the same report: they have the
> same columns, I think and allow for the same columns to be added, right?
>
> --
> Bye,
>
> Erik.
>
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> Robust and Flexible. No vendor lock-in.
>



-- 
Bye,

Erik.

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