From what I read (some years ago) Perl's Maketext deals with this issue
and several others.
Lyle
On 17/10/2014 14:05, Chris Travers wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:46 AM, Pongrácz István
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,
Regarding our pseudo-gettext files, I think it is a good format,
at least one can use free softwares to translate it, even simple
txt editor.
In the other hand, labels in general has some issues, due to that,
English words usuall have different meanings in different context.
Like 'to' means recipient in email context, date in time context
etc. The other one is the 'account' and several other words.
In this case, it is hard to translate correctly to a specific
language.
Please correct me, but when I translate a word, like 'to', I
cannot manage that, where to use this translation.
I am sure prepositions are problematic there.
I saw other solutions, where almost every labels/texts has its own
label (identifier) and the translator could translate like this:
* contact_account_creditlimit_label="Credit limit" (in english
file)
* contact_account_creditlimit_label="Hitelkeres" (in the
Hungarian file)
I also like the idea of some online systems, where the user in
"dev mode" is able to rewrite/translate the label while he/she is
using the system, clicking on a little icon.
In GNU Gettext you can use contexts to solve this problem. Have one
string with different contexts, specify the desired context at
translation time and away you go. Our modules do not support this
however....
It's a shame because GNU Gettext is actually very mature. I am almost
wondering if we need to start another GNU Gettext module since none of
the ones I saw on CPAN seemed to work properly (maybe even use XS and
create it as a language binding to the GNU utilities).
I know, it is not only about 1254, but translation infrastructure.
What do you think?
Cheers,
István
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Dátum: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 23:05:39 -0700
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Hi;
In the process of resolving various issues on bug 1174, issues
with the Hungarian translation, it was found that
Locale::Maketext::Lexicon and GNU gettext do not have compatible
handling of %. As I have looked further into the code it looks
like only a very narrow subset of gettext formatting functions
are supported by our current libraries because parameterization
is handled in fundamentally different ways.
GNU Gettext uses sprintf with appropriate qualifiers, and so %
has to be escaped as %%. Locale::Maketext uses numeric
identifiers with non-numeric ones being method names. What this
means is that our .po files aren't really po files, but things
that just kind of look like po files.
Initially we settled on gettext files because we wanted to have a
standard format. However this is not what we have now. So the
question is, going forward (1.5 and beyond) do we want to
continue to use pseudo-gettext files? Or do we want to move to
something else? If we side with the current status quo we
certainly need to document it.
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