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Feladó: "o1bigtenor" o1bigte...@gmail.com
Címzett: ledger-smb-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Dátum: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 06:21:51 -0500
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>On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Pongrácz István pongracz.ist...@gmail.com
>wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I strongly recommend to choose an LTS distribution and if possible, use a
>dedicated
>hardware or virtual machine for LedgerSMB.
>
>I have good experiences with the latest Linuxmint Xfce 17 LTS (technically it
>is an
>Ubuntu 14.04LTS).
>- New packages, long term support
>- LedgerSMB 1.3 and 1.4 are working fine
>
>If one have a recent (strong) workstation/laptop, it is easy to install the
>recommended distribution and get ledgersmb working.
>
>
>
>
>Easy to install - - - - hmmmmmmmm - - - - 3 year old instruction list as the
>most up to date - - -
>- hmmmmmmmmmmmm - - - - working system - - - - not at all.
>
>
>
>Technically, ledgersmb like any other web based softwares: drupal, joomla,
>wordpress or web based enterprise softwares. Sometimes they are not trivial to
>install, too,
>especially if you want to tune all the system, starting from the ground
>(hardware, storage,
>filesystem, tuning etc.).
>
>Due to that, the user should change files of ledgersmb, a blind copy-over
>upgrade not a
>good idea, that is why I use direct github clone + patches.
>
>
>
>
>I did the following, after installing Linuxmint 17 (quick version):
>
>
>
>installing nginx+fcgiwrap
>
>installing postgresql-9.3 and contrib, client
>
>setup postgres password, modify pga_hba.conf
>
>clone a fresh 1.3 from github
>
>copy nginx config files from the clone to nginx
>
>perl Makefile.PL
>
>read the output, answering NO to install request
>
>apt-cache search perl | grep "missing packages" -> read the result, select the
>righ one
>(or which seemd the right)
>
>apt-get install packages found in step 8
>
>go to step 6 until it suceed
>
>(for 1.4 there were only one package needed cpan install)
>
>copy the clone to the document root
>
>login to the setup.pl etc.
>
>
>
>
>
>Somehow I will disagree that LedgerSMB is easy to install. If you have done it
>a number of
>times - - - it may be. As a computer user installation requires the services
>of a specialist and
>that defeats the purpose of using OSS.
>
>
>
>A simple computer user has no deep knowledge to manage any kind of computer
>systems
>safely. Some examples about the risks of no knowledge: phising, scam, viruses,
>trojan,
>download-install-click-click-click-surprise, missing backup and recovery
>strategy, moving a laptop while it uses hdd and it is
>powered on, trusting SSD/HDD, trusting mdraid or hardware raid, trusting
>btrfs, not using
>crypto on laptop or smartphone etc.
>
>
>As my business does not need multi-user capabilities I will change to lurker
>mode and
>check back in about 4 to 5 years from now and see if the installation
>complexities have been
>changed. I just can't afford to have my financial data held hostage by outside
>companies.
>
>
>
>I think nobody wants to hostage your financial data. Even my announced hardware
>ledgersmb appliance, which technically is a working, manageable, open system
>with regular
>backup to local and cloud.
>
>With the steps I wrote above, using my other email, using Linuxmint xfce 17,
>you are able
>to install ledgersmb into a virtual computer, using virtualbox, kvm, whatever.
>I think it is very useful to learn these steps and getting through, because
>you will have
>a valuable knowledge and an experience, how to solve these kind of problems.
>
>If one would like to follow a step by step instruction, it is possible one
>will not
>understand what happens and why and if something goes wrong (the author of the
>article made a typo or
>forgot something) one will be not able to manage it.
>
>
>Darald
>
>
>
>As I can see, creating a package and get it into a distribution as a core
>package, not
>really easy and not only a technical issue, but political of the distribution.
>Anyway, as I built my systems, I am completly distribution and package
>maintenancer
>independent: everything under my control.
>
>
>
>I will post an other email with a question, soon.
>
>
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>István
>
>
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