I disagree. If Bates had gotten us up last season, I bet Howson would have stayed. It is Bates' lack of ambition (that's a nice way of putting it) that is holding us back. (It may turn out that Grayson can't quite cut it at the very top of the Championship, but I'd like to see him given more quality to test that notion.) Bates has quite clearly not spent the "bonus" money we've received in the last couple of seasons years - fees for Delph, Gradel, Schmeichel, Howson and the kids nicked by Chelsea, Everton, Spurs and Atletico Madrid; TV and attendance money from cup ties versus Man U (twice), Liverpool, Arsenal (twice) and Spurs - on the playing staff (or if he has, it's not reflected in transfer fees, so we must be playing codgers like Brown ludicrous wages).
Cheers! Sean -----Original Message----- From: Mark Humphries <[email protected]> To: 'Nicholas Armit' <[email protected]>; 'Richard Naef' <[email protected]>; 'list leedslist' <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Jan 27, 2012 11:58 am Subject: Re: [LU] in his own words.. AchieveD being the pertinent tense. Unless we were mathematically up NOW, he wouldnt have signed. Most players might well assume that even as little as, say, being 10 points clear would be "guarantee" enough for them to sign, Howson knows as well as the rest of us that 10 point leads can disappear in no time. And also, you are now getting into Ridsdale territory, because to try and buy a guarantee of being top two now AND FAR ENOUGH CLEAR TO GUARANTEE PROMOTION, would have meant spending ridiculous money (look at who/what we are competing against currently). Lets put this another way so you people living in denial can grasp the situation - as it stands Howson would NOT have signed for us had we been in either Southampton, or West Hams position. Because both are only a few points clear of Cardiff, and the rest of the pack not far behind. Is it sinking in yet? Howson wanted to play premier league NEXT season, he would therefore not sign a contract with ANY championship club this January because no championship club has been promoted yet, nor are they anywhere near guaranteed to be. This is nothing to do with Bates, loyalty, contracts, Ben Parker, Grayson shagging O'Briens wife or even Cantona shagging Lesley Ashe. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nicholas Armit Sent: 26 January 2012 20:16 To: Richard Naef; 'list leedslist' Subject: Re: [LU] in his own words.. But what if we had achieved promotion? What if we had bought some decent players last summer and now been in the top two? Bates Out. ________________________________ From: Richard Naef <[email protected]> To: 'list leedslist' <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:11 PM Subject: [LU] in his own words.. Video of Jonny talking about the move. It could be crocodile tears that he is shedding but he does seem genuinely sad to leave. It it's 100% clear he would have left in the Summer if we hadn't got promoted so it's his decision to go and best of luck to him, but no point in blaming Bates or Grayson. http://www.norwichadvertiser24.co.uk/sport/ken_bates_astonished_at_norwich_c ity_s_no_brainer_jonny_howson_offer_1_1189167 ttfn Richard _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
