Might be a non event in a pub but depends if someone presses charges or not or if its a fight.
If I'm in a bar in the city centre and someone does that to me it's caught on CCTV etc... He is getting arrested. This was a bloke on a football pitch. His reaction is totally irrelevant. He can role around and do what he wants. He hasn't got a awe to answer because he was attacked from someone coming from behind him. Was annoying that jones seemed more upset about his own abuse than this incident. He must get it every week Sent from my iPhone On 20 Oct 2012, at 08:20, Richard Walker <[email protected]> wrote: > Chris, > > I'm no legal expert but in my experience when it comes to sentences being > handed out for offences connected to football the courts look in the book and > then just add 150%. And then another 10% cos it's Leeds. > > If you had handed off someone outside a pub it would have been a none event, > because the idiot did it in a football ground on Sky tv he's now the uk's > enemy no 1. Kirkland made a meal of it in my opinion. It was a hand off not > even a punch. > > Sent from my iPad > > On 20 Oct 2012, at 07:51, Chris Briggs <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Morning Mark, >> >> Whilst this guy is obviously a massive knobhead there is only so much that >> the Court can do to sanction him. >> As the theory goes, as he is already serving an ancillary banning order and >> as he is now technically in breach of this he runs the risk of a max 26 >> weeks custody for the breach. Any custodial sentence imposed for the breach >> puts a new 10 year order in place. The football banning order has a maximum >> length of 10 years, the offender can apply for the order to be rescinded >> after serving 2/3 of the ban. I have not known of a ban being made for more >> than 10 years as I don't think the statutory instrument allows for extension >> beyond the maximum. Individual football clubs can impose life bans for >> supporters attending grounds but I don't know how successful this is or can >> be. >> >> As for the assault on Kirkland, this is my personal opinion at this point in >> time, this may change when charges are laid but I think it will be a Common >> Assault (section 39, CJA1988), rather than ABH, GBH, etc. as it was at the >> lower end of the scale, ie, single push no weapons headbutt etc. >> My guess is that this would be in the region of a Category 2 type assault >> (scale is 1 to 3, with 1 being the most serious) this brings a sentence into >> the range of fine to community order, even with others factors included and >> experience of other assault cases i dont see this as being serious enough >> for custody. >> >> Entering the field of play is a fine only. >> >> Cheers >> >> Chris >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 19 Oct 2012, at 22:44, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Twat's a serial offender though - already on a banning order. Courts will >>> make an example of him surely, and he'll also get a life ban. Something's >>> wrong if he doesn't. >>> Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Chris Briggs <[email protected]> >>> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:37:37 >>> To: [email protected]<[email protected]> >>> Cc: Richard Walker<[email protected]>; >>> [email protected]<[email protected]>; Nicholas >>> Armit<[email protected]>; <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [LU] Poor >>> >>> There are a couple of obvious offences in this; >>> Firstly, entering the field of play. This is normally dealt with by way of >>> a fine. >>> Secondly, the assault on Kirkland, this is possibly a Common Assault (the >>> CPS could say different), this can bring a maximum sentence of up to 26 >>> weeks . >>> >>> If the offender gets custody an ancillary banning order from attending >>> football matches, travelling on the railways on matchdays is put in place >>> for 10 years. >>> >>> >>> On 19 Oct 2012, at 22:13, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> It does seem to be drilled in to all footballers to hit the deck if >>>> punched/slapped. If someone did that to you in the street I doubt you'd >>>> fall down. Not excusing it though. That twat needs 12 months in jail, and >>>> informing that he'll never see another football match till the day he dies >>>> Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Richard Walker <[email protected]> >>>> Sender: [email protected] >>>> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:05:40 >>>> To: Nicholas Armit<[email protected]> >>>> Cc: <[email protected]><[email protected]>; >>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Poor >>>> >>>> Yep. >>>> >>>> It's like the world has ended cos of one idiot. >>>> >>>> I quite liked WRnock's comment - their keeper went down like a sack of >>>> spuds. >>>> >>>> It wasn't even a punch. He'd never make a rugby player. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On 19 Oct 2012, at 22:02, Nicholas Armit <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Watching in a pub with fellow lister Alan in Michigan. We are both >>>>> outraged by how shite we are. >>>>> >>>>> Wasn't Jones the molester from 10 years ago? >>>>> >>>>> From: Richard Walker <[email protected]> >>>>> To: Ian Murray <[email protected]> >>>>> Cc: "<[email protected]>" <[email protected]>; >>>>> "<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 5:00 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Poor >>>>> >>>>> The whole interview was about his hatred of Leeds fans. He went further , >>>>> he had a go at Warnock for waving to the Leeds fans at the end. >>>>> >>>>> The interviewer said ' so you're judging all Leeds fans by one idiot' >>>>> >>>>> To which Jones said 'Yes' >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> On 19 Oct 2012, at 21:56, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Did he actually say that? What a twat. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 19 Oct 2012, at 21:56, "Richard Walker" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dave jones - wanker. We're all vile, animals and should all be banned >>>>>>> from every ground in the country. From the ex- manager of Cardiff >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 19 Oct 2012, at 21:48, Mark Tuffey <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Got to say I thought that was a terrible performance and as for >>>>>>>>> Becchio that was the worse performance of a Leeds career full of >>>>>>>>> diabolically poor performances. He is just not good enough to take us >>>>>>>>> forward and I find it so frustrating to watch his efforts. 1 goal in >>>>>>>>> 8 from open play. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Couldn't agree more. >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> Wiscoleeds >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>>>> Info and options: >>>>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>> Info and options: >>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>> >>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>> >>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
