Muck !!

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On 10 Dec 2012, at 10:41, Leeds List <[email protected]> wrote:

> Rich,
> Where do you stand on German wine ?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 9 Dec 2012, at 14:21, Richard Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> What you saying ? I hope you're not saying its poncey to drink wine :) 
>> 
>> Liking French wine is one thing , loving the Germans is another. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 9 Dec 2012, at 14:11, Nicholas Armit <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Can we get back to how shit Becchio is please? And Rich had the front to 
>>> question the far shorter Germany thread and then unleashed this one?!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Michael Gardiner <[email protected]>
>>> To: Robert Heath <[email protected]> 
>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 2:28 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Wine (Was: Re: Leedslist Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15)
>>> 
>>> If you're drinking a young white (like a Sauv Blanc or a Pinot Grigio) or a 
>>> young red (a CA zin or SA shiraz, for example) no harm in a screwtop 
>>> bottle.  None.  Just to you're perceptions.
>>> 
>>> As for the rest of it….not much to disagree with.
>>> 
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>>> From: Robert Heath <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 08:13:25 +0300
>>> To: Michael Gardiner 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Wine (Was: Re: Leedslist Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15)
>>> 
>>> Screwtop wine bottles are right up there in the top 10 items that prove 
>>> that civilisation is in terminal decline.
>>> 
>>> Along with 20/20 cricket, reality tv, the "Champions" League, the dumbing 
>>> down of the questions on Mastermind, twitter, so-called "rap", a nurse 
>>> feeling that she must commit suicide b/c she has embarrassed the royal 
>>> family, cgi and Nick Clegg.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9 December 2012 03:47, Michael Gardiner 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It depends on the wine you're drinking.  If its young and to be drunk
>>> young there's nothing wrong with a screw top.  If its NOT young you
>>> probably don't want to be drinking it from a screw top bottle.
>>> 
>>> Michael Gardiner
>>> San Diego Whites
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/8/12 3:48 PM, 
>>> "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 23:10:13 +0000
>>>> From: Wayne <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> To: Richard Walker 
>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>,  Ian Murray
>>>>      <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> Cc: leedslist <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15
>>>> Message-ID: 
>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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>>>> 
>>>> Screw top or cork.... Which is the better?
>>>> 
>>>> Wayne
>>>> 
>>>> Richard Walker <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ok point accepted, I have had some decent Argie malbecs but have to pay
>>>>> a price to get anywhere near a decent French red.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone want any wine advice drop me a mail off list , I know more about
>>>>> wine than anyone in Leeds :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8 Dec 2012, at 22:58, Ian Murray 
>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Love it. I wouldn't describe some of the awesome Argie Malbecs as
>>>>> 'shit' though.
>>>>>> The rule is thus: wine in a pub - unacceptable. Wine at home -
>>>>> acceptable provided it's red.
>>>>>> Discuss.
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> On 8 Dec 2012, at 21:38, "Richard Walker" 
>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Chateau Tour Chantecaille 2010 -13 Euros.
>>>>>>> Ok, probably not the best of the best but still better than an Argie
>>>>> shite you can buy.
>>>>>>> My old man , Croggy lad born and bred went and bought a house near
>>>>> St Emillion in his old age. Brings me loads of grand Cru ( and
>>>>> sometimes some grand Cru classe) back. Love it. I go out there every
>>>>> year and stock up.
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>> On 8 Dec 2012, at 21:33, Damian Walsh 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Wholeheartedly agree - whats the St Emilion GC?
>>>>>>>> Belotte du foot ce soir vin chaud a 50cm the glass and
>>>>> sandwiches at 2E
>>>>>>>> - que demande le peuple
>>>>>>>> Damian
>>>>>>>> Le 8 d?c. 2012 22:15, "Richard Walker" 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> a
>>>>> ?crit :
>>>>>>>>> Surely my reply was better Eric ?
>>>>>>>>> French over Argie shite any day of the week.
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>> On 8 Dec 2012, at 21:02, Eric B 
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cheers Ross. This is posting of the year as far as Im concerned.
>>>>> and we
>>>>>>>>> re
>>>>>>>>>> in Dec. not in January.
>>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 4:53 AM, Ross Thornton
>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>> People use other peoples opinion on becchio to try and
>>>>> rationalise with
>>>>>>>>>>> you regarding your extremist views on becchio by referencing
>>>>> widley
>>>>>>>>>>> respected opinions as evidence, but it is ultimatley pointless
>>>>> as with
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>> extremist you only view things in black and white and are
>>>>> totally
>>>>>>>>> unable to
>>>>>>>>>>> concede or accept any view outside your own. Talking to you
>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> Becchio
>>>>>>>>>>> is like to trying to convince Al-Qaeda that Americans arent all
>>>>> bad. The
>>>>>>>>>>> instant anyone dare stand up in defence of becchio they are
>>>>> suddenly
>>>>>>>>>>> branded Becchio fans who think he is a legend as opposed to
>>>>> people with
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> rational view who can see despite his obvious limitations (poor
>>>>> touch
>>>>>>>>> etc)
>>>>>>>>>>> he has a good scoring record and has been a good servant to the
>>>>> club and
>>>>>>>>>>> that there have been far worse players at the club (albeit with
>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>> limitations).  Billy Paynter, Mike Grella, Liam Dickinson, Gary
>>>>>>>>> McSheffrey,
>>>>>>>>>>> Lee Trundle, Sam Vokes and Mikkel Forsell just to name a few in
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> strinking department who i doubt scored mor
>>>>>>>>>>> e than 10 goals between them.
>>>>>>>>>>> Todays match report goes to prove your almost zealot like
>>>>> obsession with
>>>>>>>>>>> slating Becchio was he poor ... yes undoubtedly, but what about
>>>>> peltier
>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>> was woeful at LB?  or several other players who were just as
>>>>> poor or for
>>>>>>>>>>> instance varney who was totally anonymous and awful when he came
>>>>> on, and
>>>>>>>>>>> apart from a half decent display against an awful saints side,
>>>>> has been
>>>>>>>>>>> abject. Are you really saying you would start varney ahead of
>>>>>>>>> Becchio??!!
>>>>>>>>>>> Will I be singing luciano Becchio in the kop next home game,
>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>> doubt
>>>>>>>>>>> ... is it because I think he is the best player ever and I
>>>>> blindly adore
>>>>>>>>>>> him... no hes just one of our longest serving players who has
>>>>>>>>> contributed
>>>>>>>>>>> a decent amount of goals and effort to my club. Would I like
>>>>> four better
>>>>>>>>>>> strikers at leeds yes undoubtedly, is that going to happen
>>>>> anytime
>>>>>>>>> soon, no
>>>>>>>>>>> chance.
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway no doubt Ill be branded a Becchio fan and slated for
>>>>> coming out
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> the woodwork....Unfortunatley exremists are never willing to
>>>>> accept any
>>>>>>>>>>> middle ground may exist.
>>>>>>>>>>> can't remember if it was linked on here or waccoe but the below
>>>>> link to
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> radio interview with Andy Hughes, kind of sums up for me that
>>>>> its not
>>>>>>>>>>> always about ability:
>>>>> http://www.werenotfamousanymore.com/2011/01/andy-hughes-interview-co-york
>>>>> shire.html
>>>>>>>>>>> out of interest I take it you hated Andy Hughes?
>>>>>>>>>>> Luciano Becchio there is no myth - he's just a fairly limited
>>>>> player who
>>>>>>>>>>> works hard, has scored a decent amount of goals and is a good
>>>>> servant to
>>>>>>>>>>> LUFC.
>>>>>>>>>>> (I have this exact same long running argument with my Dad who I
>>>>> go to
>>>>>>>>>>> games with he shares your extremist approach)
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers Ross
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brilliant in the air ? You seem to hang off other people's
>>>>> opinions
>>>>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>>>>>> rather than your own. You've seen him, can you honestly say he
>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> brilliant
>>>>>>>>>>> in he air ? He's average at best.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What he did say was that apart from the last 2 weeks he thought
>>>>> Becchio
>>>>>>>>>>> was having a poor season. A poor season ?, he's scored over 10
>>>>> goals, is
>>>>>>>>>>> our top scorer and has been on fire hasn't he ? What does that
>>>>> tell you
>>>>>>>>>>> about Becchio?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I love it when Becchio scores because it brings everyone out of
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> woodwork who actually rates him. My guess is we'll now witness a
>>>>> spell
>>>>>>>>> of 5
>>>>>>>>>>> or 6 games without a goal or chance on goal and even a few
>>>>> penalties
>>>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>>>>>> cloud the issue now with Macca back in the team.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you watch the game today on the web ? Second half, ball
>>>>> gets played
>>>>>>>>>>> to Becchio , simple ball that anyone who has played football to
>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>>>>> level would have controlled, Becchio not only failed to control
>>>>> it but
>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>> spooned it out of play. I can honestly say I've never miss
>>>>> controlled a
>>>>>>>>>>> ball as bad as that.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On another occasion he got the ball, turned and played it to a
>>>>> Derby
>>>>>>>>>>> player - no pressure on him at all. It's just not good enough
>>>>> and just
>>>>>>>>> puts
>>>>>>>>>>> us right back under pressure.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently mcCormack said you can forgive what Becchio does
>>>>> outside the
>>>>>>>>>>> box due to what he does in the box. Have you ever heard a
>>>>> professional
>>>>>>>>>>> footballer talk about a team mate like that ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> How can a striker on form ( or so we are told) not have 1
>>>>> bleeding shot
>>>>>>>>>>> or chance on goal - actually his assist I think was an attempt
>>>>> on goal.
>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>>> doubt his fans will cling on to that today.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And why do I not rate him ? Because in my opinion he is the
>>>>> worse
>>>>>>>>> player
>>>>>>>>>>> ever to play for Leeds - that's in terms of basic footballing
>>>>> ability
>>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>>>> Passing, control, pace, acceleration, awareness, shooting. I
>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>> think of
>>>>>>>>>>> a player who a) would have miscontrolled that ball today as bad
>>>>> as that
>>>>>>>>> b)
>>>>>>>>>>> spends so much time on his arse feigning injury
>>>>>>>>>>>> Becchio - a total , fucking myth.
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