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> From: Richard Walker <[email protected]>
> Date: 3 March 2013 18:09:38 GMT
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Becchio Watch
> 
> Do you think we're worse ? If you think back to Hull, Forest, Barnsley, 
> Watford , Derby where we offered nothing in games and I mean nothing. 
> 
> Now we've got 3 clean sheets ( ok by a good bit of luck but still they are 
> clean sheets), unbeaten  in 3 playing much better, we were the better team 
> and unlucky against Cardiff and would have beaten Wolves if we'd seen it 
> out.also beat Spurs at home.
> 
> I'd say we're much improved .... That isn't saying too much I know but we are 
> definitely a more settled , improved team. Anyone who says we aren't is 
> kidding themselves and are probably the type who are sat in their bedroom , 
> singing the Becchio / Berbatov song by the side of posters of Becchio kissing 
> the Leeds badge. Incidentally Berbatov has scored 10 in 23 for Fulham this 
> season. The song seems more ridiculous than ever.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 3 Mar 2013, at 17:49, Dr Michael Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Bottom line is that Becchio was bad in fact terrible. But no one is better, 
>> we're worse of without him. As for respect for Colin. Absolutely nil. 
>> Complete and inconsistent bullshit artist at best. IMO a bloody good liar. 
>> Especially about strikers, wingers and replacements at all. He toes the 
>> party line no matter what. One he'll of a lousy way to end an illustrious 
>> career
>> 
>> On Mar 3, 2013 5:43 PM, "Richard Walker" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> There's always someone to trot out the argument ... He must be good cos 
>>> Simon Grayson, Gary Mccallister , Warnock and Chris Houghton picked him.
>>> 
>>> Well, Grayson has just been sacked by Huddersfield , who are going down 
>>> this season.
>>> 
>>> Macca was sacked by us in League One.
>>> 
>>> Chris Houghton had nothing to lose - he shipped out a crocked Championship 
>>> striker and bought in an 'in form' championship striker with a good 
>>> reputation - even Don Goodman on Sky think he's dangerous in the air. You 
>>> cant argue with expertise like that. Chris has now relegated him within 3 
>>> games to the bench behind Kamara. I think he's seen enough already and I 
>>> think Becchio ought to be looking for houses in Middlesborough in prep for 
>>> the Summer.
>>> 
>>> As for Warnock, he gets my total respect for dispelling the myth that is 
>>> Luciano Becchio. Despite scoring a hat full of penalties Warnock got rid 
>>> because he knew he was limited, couldn't hold the ball up and was 
>>> effectively a dud. There's more to this story and I think more will come 
>>> out when Warnock has completed his stint at Leeds.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 3 Mar 2013, at 14:41, Matt Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > You don't get to be a professional footballer without having some skill 
>>> > or talent let alone a premiership one.
>>> >
>>> > Either that or becchio has pictures of macca Grayson warnock and houghton 
>>> > pleasuring goats and he is blackmailing them.
>>> >
>>> > We have had plenty of shit footballers over recent years, however crap he 
>>> > was he scored goals and most fans loved him.
>>> >
>>> > Can't we just remember the good times and move on and hopefully fluke our 
>>> > way out of this league (upwards) and never need to be in the position of 
>>> > needing to buy becchios again
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>> >
>>> > On 3 Mar 2013, at 17:04, Richard Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> If we're quoting stats Paul, lets get them right. Becchio had scored 15 
>>> >> league goals (hes not having that Brighton goal). and more than a third 
>>> >> of them were pens. So lets not get carried away with his scoring 
>>> >> prowess. He has never scored 20 league goals in a season in his life. In 
>>> >> the season he played with Beckford he got 15 and Beckford got 27 , 
>>> >> another striker not good enough for the PL.
>>> >>
>>> >> Ricky Lambert was not in the premiership when Soton bought him, he was 
>>> >> in League One playing for Bristol Rovers and he cost 1 and a half 
>>> >> million , only twice what we paid for Danny Pugh. Good business that and 
>>> >> a bit of a fuck up on our part. Althoughy Danny Pugh did give us 
>>> >> stability on the left hand side.
>>> >>
>>> >> Jordan Rhodes has scored 22 league goals ( according to BBC ) this 
>>> >> season in a struggling Blackburn side. He ain't no world beater but he 
>>> >> can trap a ball.
>>> >>
>>> >> Glen Murray shows you what you can do being an average player , with a 
>>> >> bit of composure and skill in the Championship.
>>> >>
>>> >> Charlie Austin, Tom Ince all can play a bit and will score way over 20 
>>> >> goals this season - Austin already has.
>>> >>
>>> >> Kevin Nugent, he'll score 20 this season- a bit of pace, skill , control.
>>> >>
>>> >> There's fucking loads of players at Championship level that would help 
>>> >> us get promotion. Becchio couldn't.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPad
>>> >>
>>> >> On 3 Mar 2013, at 12:16, "Paul Cundell" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Very selective of you Rich, Becchio scored 19 by the end of January THIS
>>> >>> season in the championship.
>>> >>> Ricky Lambert is in the premiership, I think, and Jordan Rhodes was 
>>> >>> until
>>> >>> relegated and has never scored 20 goals in the championship.
>>> >>> McCormack scored 18 last season not 20 and is nowhere near achieving 
>>> >>> that
>>> >>> this season (3), had that been Becchio you would have called last 
>>> >>> season a
>>> >>> flash in the pan.
>>> >>> Morison scored 20 goals in League One and 15 in the Championship for
>>> >>> Millwall.
>>> >>> Lambert played 90 minutes yesterday, didn’t score and couldn’t avoid 
>>> >>> getting
>>> >>> beat by QPR.
>>> >>> Rhodes played 90 minutes, did score but couldn’t avoid defeat by
>>> >>> Peterborough.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> So by your own admission we really have one example of a footballing
>>> >>> goalscorer and neither of us can remember his name – old farts that we 
>>> >>> are –
>>> >>> Glenn Murray
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I never thought Becchio was premiership standard either but that he was 
>>> >>> a
>>> >>> decent second division goalscorer.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Our current goal drought against poor form teams leads me to believe 
>>> >>> that we
>>> >>> should be careful what we wish for.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As for Macca’s pen being on target, that’s all it was – otherwise it 
>>> >>> was one
>>> >>> of the weakest attempts I’ve ever seen and if it had been Becchio you 
>>> >>> would
>>> >>> have been calling for his hanging.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Rich W wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> of course you can have a goalscorer who can trap a ball , play a pass 
>>> >>>> and
>>> >>> score goals at Championshiop level. Ricky Lambert is one and Morrison 
>>> >>> has
>>> >>> proved for Millwall that he can do it too (45 goals in 2 seasons). Also 
>>> >>> our
>>> >>> own McCormack has proved it can be done scoring 19 the previous season. 
>>> >>> If
>>> >>> you look around there are others - the bloke from Palace who has nearly 
>>> >>> 30
>>> >>> goals already, Jordon Rhodes and many others. Yes some of these cost a 
>>> >>> bit
>>> >>> of brass but that's the sort of player we need to take us up.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> and it's funny you talk about Becchio as if he's a proven 20 goal a 
>>> >>>> season
>>> >>> scorer - he never managed 20 in one season in League One and got 11 
>>> >>> season
>>> >>> before last so don't make out he's something he's not.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> the Becchio watch thing is to demonstrate that this guy is just not up 
>>> >>>> to
>>> >>> the premier league, in fact he's not even close. I never said he single
>>> >>> handedly could avoided getting beat against scum but he would have 
>>> >>> managed
>>> >>> the team or maybe the first striker sub if he was showing some promise.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> and of course Becchio would have scored both pens yesterday - not if he
>>> >>> took it like the one he missed v Yeovil. At least Macca got it on 
>>> >>> target.
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