I'd love to know that too - I'm sure my current bosses aren't paying me
enough! ;)

Damian
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On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Nicholas Armit <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ok...kind of interesting thread. I have been working for a state agency
> here in Michigan for the last four years and my job has morphed into a
> quasi-PM job on a web application. The thought did cross my mind to get an
> actual PM certification but does anyone have an idea what the salaries are
> before I make such a jump? Wide ranging question I know....
>
> Nick
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Andy Clayton <[email protected]>
> To: Eric B <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 6:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [LU] NON- LU PM study tips
>
>
> Eric,
>
> Not sure where in the world you are at the moment? That would provide
> direction one way or the other.
>
> If you want to work in the UK as a PM, you have to have (99.99% of PM jobs
> advertised call for it) PRINCE2 (P2). Most of them never state which level
> (there are three; Foundation; Practitioner & Professional) - and some
> recruiters wouldn't know there were different levels. If you want to be
> able to put P2 on the CV - go for the foundation level.
>
> If you do decide to do it - contact me - I can give you all the learning
> materials etc, but you'd have to book an exam with someone else.
>
> Passing a P2 course will not make you a PM - it will simply teach you a
> method and that is it, nothing more.
>
> If you are not working in the UK (or Australia; India; Netherlands; Denmark
> & a few other countries) then don't bother with P2.
>
> PMP is useful if you want to work in the US or for a US company. If you
> were in the UK, I'd suggest you went for the APMP from the Association for
> Project Management (http://www.apm.org.uk/APMP).
>
> The PMBoK (PM Book of knowledge) you mention is the aide to attaining PMP -
> the APM have one for the APMP too.
>
> Happy to talk about it more offline. I am currently running a PM
> consultancy company - we used to do training too (P2), but got out as it's
> a mugs game. 25+ years experience running projects all over the globe.
>
> cheers,
>
> Andy C
>
> On 7 August 2013 02:04, Eric B <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I ve decided to diversify and look into Project Management. There are so
> > many poor ones out there that get paid big bucks, why no join the club
> as I
> > cant beat them?
> >
> > Obviously studying this is a project in itself and I ve qualified the
> > method as a risk I need to manage, that will impact time and delivery
> which
> > will then impact cost and procurement.. God dam it..
> > Is there a Sex Pistols variant of project management by any chance?
> >
> > I m doing some research now and I ve come across 3 methods there seem to
> be
> > common
> >
> > prince2
> > PMP
> > PMbok
> >
> > The course Im doing now uses PMbok but I ve not seen this anywhere so Im
> > weary.
> > I know we have PMs on this list, we must have!
> >
> > I d appreciate any tips on the matter. Incl. tips of self education, ie
> > books for newbies.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Eric
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