----- Original Message ----- I think there may be many people out there Rick 
who believe that the authorities might treat us differently to how they treat 
other clubs. I know we've got a chip on our shoulder, but there are many 
occurrences where we have been dealt with unfairly/harshly, going right back to 
the early 70s, and so our paranoia is at least understandable.

The thing is that we are using the times and events of Alan Hardacre/Revie etc  
as proof of the present day. That is simply nonsense, though there were 
definite grounds for that belief way back then. It was genuine back then, as 
has been since revealed.
It is of course understandable for today's Leeds fans to wrap ourselves in the 
comfort blanket of pretending that today's FL have it in for us but I (and 
others) know (from direct personal experience) that it simply is not the case. 
If anything, today we have powerful friends at the FL. I'm not yet certain what 
changes the recruitment of Harvey might have made to that situation however.

Bates deliberately went down a path that nobody else had gone down. He thought 
that he had found a loophole. If you try a new trick then by definition it is 
different to other clubs.
It does not prove that the authorities had it in for us. In truth the FL bent 
over backwards to keep Leeds in the FL - DESPITE the antics of Bates' 
brinkmanship and threats.

In fact in today's climate, where fans and fans groups have far greater access 
and influence than ever before (still though with millions of miles of room for 
improvement), deluding ourselves is actually unhelpful and is 
counter-productive.

Even today as an example, most fans will totally underestimate the influence of 
the fans on the F.A.'s Hull City name decision. The reality is that it has been 
crucial. Critical maybe. 
The point is though that the objective was to attain the objective, and not to 
seek the public credit for it, though the FSF/SD will seek a little of it and 
the active Hull fans deserve loads of it.
It is more productive to recognise that the "authorities" have listened, but it 
is THEY who have made the right decision here -with a little "help" and 
influence.
Many will argue that past decisions have not been quite so "enlightened", but 
that is the nature of making progress, and it is almost never the proof of what 
some would have you falsely believe. 
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John 'Grampa' Sykes
Rest In Peace old lad
28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013
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