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> On 29 Apr 2014, at 4:07, "Ed Morrish" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On 28 Apr 2014, at 15:27, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> The nature of football? Don't try and make things more complicated than they >> are. The nature of football is 11 men trying to score more goals than >> another 11 in 90 minutes. > > Of course. And the nature of being a striker is to score goals. And this list > has been consistent in heaping praise on strikers who, despite being limited, > consistently score goals. "Who cares how nice he is to watch!" we cry in > unison, "He gets the job done!" Chelsea scored twice. Liverpool scored none. > >> That Barca team was probably the best group of players to play at the same >> time at one club, ever. The same group finished behind Mourinho's Madrid the >> previous year (or the one before that - can't remember). > > It wasn't last season, it was the season before. But not the season before > that. Cool. Good googling. >> Also, I think their style of ticky-taki can be dull and is extremely >> ineffective when employed with > >> less talented players (see Arsenal). Would much prefer to watch >> Mourinho-style organised defence with lethal counter attacking myself, >> fascinating to watch. > > I don't disagree that it can be dull. But I simply wouldn't prefer to watch > Mourinho's sides, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that. Yep. > >> Hodgson could do with getting England to play like it - we might actually >> have a chance in Brazil if he did because we certainly don't have one trying >> to play expansive, attacking football. > > True. Hodgson's stuck with English players, though. Yep- players who can play that system. >> He won the European Cup, Serie A and Scudetto with an Inter team that had >> finished where the previous season? He won the Champions League with Porto. > > They had won the previous three league titles (the first one by default, > admittedly, after the match-fixing scandal). Ok. How had they faired in Europe? I meant copa italia - obviously, the Scudetto is the championship. I didn't google their record beforehand. > >> As Matt points out, his players would run through brick walls for him, he is >> a master tactician and expert psychologist. I'd probably hire him too - >> because he is the best. > > Well, any friend of John Terry's is a friend of mine. (Except, you know, the > non-white ones.) What relevance is this? What, we can't respect Mourinho because Terry's a dick? Great logic. What about the legions of world class pros who love Mourinho? Counts for a lot - just ask Moyes. > >> I think the last sentence betrays you - I agree with the sentiments but >> that's a separate issue from 'is Mourinho a great manager?' > > I think what he does has very little to do with football, is the thing. > Brilliant organiser, brilliant motivator, luxurious hair, he could be a great > FTSE CEO. But he doesn't improve players, he doesn't spot talent, doesn't > nurture, and puts out teams that make me want to cancel my Sky subscription. > > If he'd been boss of Man Utd, he'd have kept Kanchelskis and sold Beckham. > > I'm just shocked by the amount of love on this list for an apparently > appalling human being who doesn't play for Leeds. The first sentence in the first paragraph wins the award for least sense on this list I've ever read. Well done. _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
