Still think Rosler should have been given more time.

      From: {broken-address} <[email protected]>
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Cc: Leeds List <[email protected]>
 Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 7:38 AM
 Subject: Re: [LU] Wolves report
   
I echo others comments re the reports Dave, and others - always read and 
appreciated, if not necessarily agreed with :-)

I don't particularly trust Cellino, and therefore am dubious about the ST 
offers, but if it comes off then fine. The £5 on the day surcharge, or join the 
membership scheme for £x, really bugs me, and has stopped me buying tickets 
too. It feels like a rip-off, and I try not to do rip-offs!

Wood had clearly been told to shoot from anywhere last night, and was both 
unlucky and rubbish. He sometimes looks like a footballer, but at other times 
looks very ordinary indeed. 

11th in the table had me looking at the top 6 for a second last night, until 
common-sense kicked in. What might have been eh? I thought Rosler was the right 
man and look how that turned out :-(

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> On 20 Apr 2016, at 10:50, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> No problem - generally enjoy doing them (sometimes a bit of a bind) and it is 
> hard to get the chronology right on occasionAs for next season, I am a fan of 
> Evans for the most part and we have had times, like second half last night, 
> when we look more than decent. Our record against the top teams seems to show 
> that we can compete at this level BUT we need to be much better at home and 
> find a way of beating the poorer teams.
> I think the ST initiative is an amazing idea and I really hope the fans get 
> behind it and smash the 15,ooo barrier that would trigger 50% if things do 
> not work out.
> I do worry about Cellino, there is so much baggage and you cannot run any 
> business with knee-jerk decisions, BUT I think his 'lies' are more like 
> 'truths that don't happen' - something I get in trouble off with my wife - I 
> promise something and mean it when I say it but then things intervene and it 
> looks like I lied (eg. 'I am going out but will only have one pint') His 
> promises re ground were true but then things happened (other debts) that 
> stopped him doing it.
> He has learnt some lessons - he thought Serie B was the same as Championship 
> and bought good Serie B players , then when he realised his mistake he 
> allowed Rosler to buy decent proven Champ players - Wood, Dallas and Adeyemi 
> were all good buys at the time - even if they have not quite worked out for 
> diffferent reasons. We have got Diagourara and Carayol by beating off 
> oppostion by paying more.
> This ST idea means either the end of him or he will have to put his (and our) 
> money where his mouth is and really go for it next season.
> I hope the boycotters and anti Cellino mob give him a chance - if we have 
> been conned so be it , we will know soon and then be able to get rid , and if 
> he is genuine then surely that is all we really want, a team to be proud of 
> and get behind.
> The fans group are claiming '£20 is plenty' well , £445 for a Kop ST with 23 
> games is just under £20 so that is fine with the promise of pretty huge 
> refund if we are not successful. A mate of mine is back after 5 or 6 years in 
> Australia and he thinks he was paying around £700 for a East Stand ticket 
> before he left, under Bates, so prices have come down (for home fans anyway - 
> the £30+ for away fans is steep and I do not like the £5 surcharge on pay on 
> the day-but I have no idea if it is working for either the club or fans)
> 
> Dave
> 
>      From: rhys hodge <[email protected]>
> To: Leeds List <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2016, 10:20
> Subject: Re: [LU] Wolves report
> 
> Thanks for the report Dave. Those of us overseas really look forward to 
> these. I have enjoyed your reports throughout the season. I am ready to get 
> shot down in flames, but Something in my gut tells me we may do something 
> next season
> 
> MOT
> Rhys
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 20/4/16, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Subject: [LU] Wolves report
> To: "Leeds List" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, 20, April, 2016, 7:49 PM
> 
> This game had all the cliches 'end of
> season stroll' 'game of two halves' 'goal worth the
> admission fee on its own'and my view / opinnions reflected
> that.
> One of my  mates on entering the pub asked who we were
> playing - that pretty much givens an idea of our level of
> enthusiasm
> We spent most of the pre match talking about the new ST deal
> - all 5 of us thought, on the face it is great but a bit
> worried it will not work out, but since 2 of us own 20yr
> ones and the other 3 were going to renew whatever  it makes
> little difference to us and we could not decide if other
> fans would be persuaded to buy one.
> Anyway on to the game and a paltry crowd of 17k were treated
> to as poor a first half as you could get. We were awful, no
> passion, no pride, no passing no movement, no anything.
> Coyle was a fish out of water at right wing, Erwin looked
> like he had never kicked a ball before and the whole team
> played as if they had never met. We were terrible and looked
> like they thought the season was already over. Thankfully
> the Wolves strikers had the same malaise as they missed a
> couple of great chances, on one occasion the lad falling
> over when it looked easier to score. 
> 
> So thanks to their profligacy in front of goal we managed to
> go in at 0 0 - those who could be bothered did boo, most of
> us just stood numb and uninterested thinking at least there
> is only 45minutes of this dross left.
> Then an amazing transformation - Cook suddenly became the
> player of the season that he is, Murphy turned up and the
> whole team got a new lease of life. We looked lively and
> were running into space, finding passes and generally
> looking good. 
> 
> Then the icing on the cake, on came Dallas, a player for
> whom the jury is still out really, and he was brilliant,
> making runs , wanting the ball and delivering crosses and
> passes into the danger area. Not sure what Evans said or put
> in their tea but this was (cliche) chalk and cheese from the
> first half.
> Then with about an hour gone the goal worth the admission, a
> looped cross over the top (Dallas?) fell to Bamba and he
> took it on his chest and absolutely lashed it into the top
> corner - an amazing goal from him (in some ways , perhaps
> cos I thought it would go miles wide /over in both cases ,
> reminded me of Bradley Johnson v Arsenal
> Then a few minutes later game over, or it should have been,
> A decent move and Cook put it a hard low cross that was met
> by Diagourara on the penalty spot and he hammered home - a
> goal machine. One in 5 years for Brentford or something, 3
> already for us.
> We continued to play and create and both Botaka and Bridcutt
> came on. Before he was subbed the first half hapless Erwin
> did a couple of turns and passes that made me think he can
> play a bit
> Then the inevitable - they broke forward, the defence stood
> and watched and they pulled one back. Cue a nervy finish ?
> Not tonight. We carried on as if nothing had happened and
> Dallas hit the bar and in a brilliant, what would have been
> goal of the season, Cook won the ball, beat 4 or 5 defenders
> as he sprinted forward, he fed Wood whose lay off to Botaka
> was perfect and Botaka hit a lovely strike that clipped the
> bar - sublime stuff.
> So when the final whistle went it was applause and cheers
> all round - a great second half - more please.
> Dallas made the real difference but all of them were good
> second half - Botaka again showed in flashes that he does
> have something special but also showed he is a bit too
> lightweight at times - he could become a real star for us.
> So lets see if the ST innovation and 3 wins in a row (with 5
> goals in two home games) does enough to convince the
> doubters to stay / come back and for the anti Cellino
> boycotters to take him at his word (yeah, I know) and take a
> chance, as my son who renewed yesterday said it is win, win
> , winIf we get top 6 - winIf we fail top 6 - money back -
> winIf we do not get the money back - Cellino cannot survive
> - win
> Dave
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