Agreed. I'm fed up of people standing shoulder to shoulder with Manchester, or
candlelit vigils or lighting up the Eiffel tower. Means nothing. Isis don't
care. Job done crusaders are dead. All the Facebook flags in the world won't
help
I'm pretty sure this was the one that got though and dozens have been foiled
though.
Blaming Islam is a little bit like blaming all men for rape but at the same
time groups of people to self police and that needs to go on more. Didsbury
mosque goers must have had a clue about him.
We do need to knock the political correctness on the head, whether it be knife
wielding gangs in London or religious extremism and get tougher
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> On 24 May 2017, at 13:14, {broken-address} Richard Walker
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> agreed, business as usual is what got us into this mess. Burying our heads in
> the sand and continuing as if nothing happened and the perspective this guy
> was just a lone nutter will solve nothing.
> All these people changing their facebook profile pics, holding placards and
> calling for tolerance are doing nothing to resolve the issue. I fear that
> attacks like this will become the norm very soon.
> From: Michael Benjamin <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; Leeds List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2017, 11:34
> Subject: Re: [LU] : Manchester
>
> It isn't business as usual. It never can be. It means vigilance and guards.
> It means profiling. It means dawn raids and searches. As I get on my El Al
> flights I am aghast at the armed presence. They can only make things worse.
> Sure, it's a feel good factor but if they open fire they'll kill a lot more
> than e terrorist.
> How does it stop? By having guards who intercept the terrorist. A lot die for
> their efforts. But the 'kill rate' falls dramatically. So low it is no longer
> is effective.
> Civil liberties are curtailed. You have no alternative. Profiling is
> unpleasant.
> Right now the UK is in a worse position than we were. We can identify the
> problem areas and if need be close them down. It's cruel It is collective
> punishment. It works. The same goes for profiling.
> Sorry, it is not business as usual. If it is, expect a lot more deaths.
> Michael
>
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> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> |[email protected]
> |Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:10 PM
> |To: Leeds List <[email protected]>
> |Subject: Re: [LU] : Manchester
> |
> |I doubt anyone could see the picture of the 8 year old girl and not get
> upset -
> |anyone normal that is !Odd feeling around the place at present - I went to
> the
> |Lowry Theatre last night and it was business as usual- almost - they never
> usually
> |do any sort bag checking but last night they did have 2 old dears (it is
> mainly
> |staffed by volunteers) looking in handbags. It was a sell out crowd and
> every seat
> |was full so no-one appeared to be 'scared off' - it was odd on the way out
> |afterwards to see 2 police cars - one from Wales with Heddu written on it -
> with
> |3 coppers stood with them, 2 with machine guns and one with a hand gun - they
> |were getting pizza from a local pizzeria. I hate to see armed police and
> hope this
> |does not become the normI know friends who are going, as normal, to the town
> |centre tonight to watch their game and I am off into Piccadilly on Saturday
> for a
> |few beers.
> |I do know a lad with 2 young daughters who had tickets for the MEN but could
> |not go and gave the tickets away, thankfully to people who stayed safe (that
> |would not be a good thing to have on your conscience if they had died) and
> he is
> |worried about taking them into town over the weekend for the marathon or
> |whatever it is. He does not want the terrorists to 'win' but fears for their
> safety
> |and thinks that they will be too worried to enjoy themselves - difficult
> decisions
> |The saving grace of it all is the fact that it is one (or maybe a few)
> nutters who
> |did this atrocious act but the number of people who did great things during
> and
> |afterwards is in the hundreds if not more - rescuing people, giving free
> taxis,
> |giving so much blood they have stopped taking it , people taking food to the
> |hospitals, and the various collections for the victims families and for the
> two
> |homeless lads who helped are going through the roof.
> |We will have the flag at half mast tonight at cubs to show our respect I am
> not
> |however having a bee tattooed on myself at weekend despite the Manchester
> |tattoo association saying they will do them for a £50 donation to the
> victims fund
> |dave
> |
> |
> | From: Graham Thirkill <[email protected]>
> | To: [email protected]
> | Sent: Tuesday, 23 May 2017, 19:32
> | Subject: [LU] : Manchester
> |
> |Richard Naeff said: Quote
> |> Hope Dave and anyone else with connections to Manchester is OK - can't all
> |sides just stop killing Children?
> |> ttfn Richard Quote”
> |
> |May I second Rich’s, post…Iv’e crie…...but not ashamed, I’m a father and
> grand-
> |father and uncle. It’s heartbreaking, thinking, any of these unfortunate,
> lovely
> |kids could have been one of my lovely kids…To Manchester people... I take my
> |hat off to you all, you have been amazing, the way you “ALL" have come out
> and
> |done your utmost, to help these magic people who were caught up in terror in
> |you city……..with your courage, kindness, support and help…….
> |Thanks from a Yorkshireman.
> |
> |Cheers and Beers
> |Thirkers\08/
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