Ha! Lies, damn lies and statistics!
Don’t think PML looked that effective yesterday.


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> On 5 Nov 2017, at 15:12, Nick <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> while not disagreeing with anything below much…it is funny how we see things 
> and how stats work…apparently Lasogga is the most effective player in the 
> league when you combine goals scored with goal assists…Phillips has always 
> promised more than he’s brought to any party…
> 
> N
> 
> 
>> On 5 Nov 2017, at 14:11, Simon McNally <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Agree with all that.
>> I think back to when we had George Graham. He said that sometimes you’ll 
>> lose because you were outplayed by a better team but you should never lose 
>> because you were outworked or outfought. 
>> That’s what seems to be happening every week and what is annoying me the 
>> most. Like Sean said, half the time they’re not even challenging for headers.
>> Lasogga is starting to piss me off - he lost the ball yesterday to a bloke 3 
>> yards away and didn’t make any attempt to run towards him. He jogs around 
>> doing fuck all - I’d send him back to Hamburg. If Roofe looks better than 
>> you, you’ve got problems.
>> I’m so annoyed with them - we make the best start for ages and then proceed 
>> to piss it up the wall.
>> I’d have Allardyce or Strachan (maybe with Gary Mac and get Vinnie in as 
>> “motivational coach” - there’d be no more not working hard enough!)
>> 
>> S
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 5 Nov 2017, at 13:43, {broken-address} 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The thing I found so galling watching yesterday's game - and most of the 
>>> recent games - was the absolute lack of commitment in most of the players. 
>>> I lost count of the number of high balls into the middle of the park that 
>>> none of our players even challenged for. They just stood back and watched 
>>> Brentford head it to another Brentford player. The same applies to tackles 
>>> - I can't remember a single crunching tackle by any of our players in the 
>>> middle of the park. Then there's the whole issue of pressing. In the first 
>>> part of the season, when we were winning, I seem to remember us pressing 
>>> the opposition back four as soon as they received the ball. We're not doing 
>>> that any more. Brentford had all the time in the world to play up towards 
>>> the centre circle before they had to worry about getting past a Leeds 
>>> player. When we did gain possession, our players weren't showing for the 
>>> pass. The man on the ball had too few options. We need a sports 
>>> psychologist to instill some real aggression and courage in our players.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To me, the only players to emerge with any credit from yesterday were 
>>> Berardi and Saiz. Berardi's not the world's greatest full back, but he put 
>>> in some decent crosses yesterday, and he at least brings the fire. Saiz 
>>> obviously has the talent and competitive spirit to thrive in the 
>>> Championship. Even so, a couple of times in the last few games he's 
>>> maneuvered himself into a great shooting position and then opted not to 
>>> pull the trigger. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Like others, I've been looking at the squad and trying to figure out a 
>>> first XI ad a formation that would give us the best chance of victory. It's 
>>> hard, because, as others have noted, over the summer we stripped out the 
>>> entire spine of the team - Green, Bartley, Bridcutt and Wood - and replaced 
>>> them with players who are not as good (Wiedwald, Pennington, Klich, 
>>> Lasogga). As I have mentioned before, we lack a real leader in the middle 
>>> of the park.  Vieira might evolve into that player, but he's not there yet. 
>>> We also lack physical size in midfield. I think it'd be worth trying 
>>> Shaughnessy (he's 6'3") in midfield (where he played for Reading) alongside 
>>> Vieira. I think we also need a formation change that gives us more options 
>>> in midfield and attack. Some version of 3-5-2 or 4-4-2 might leave Lasogga 
>>> less isolated up front.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not all of this is TC's fault. The whole "director of football/head coach" 
>>> set up is one I have huge reservations over. I can't imagine Don Revie (or 
>>> Bill Shankly or Brian Clough or Alex Ferguson) allowing a "director of 
>>> football" to decide which players were going to be available to them. 
>>> Victor Orta has to take some responsibility for the hopelessness that so 
>>> many of the new players have displayed. I hope I'm proven wrong, but 
>>> players like Wiedwald, Klich, Cibicki and Grot are not going to get us 
>>> promoted. (The same could be said of some of the players left over from 
>>> last season - O'Kane springs to mind.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> These are difficult days. There's no point sacking TC unless we have 
>>> someone clearly superior lined up. I do not think Grayson fits that 
>>> description.. (Remember we went through a similar loss of form after the 
>>> Old Trafford FA Cup win.) And frankly, sacking the manager - sorry, "head 
>>> coach" - who's taken you to 10th and replacing him with the manager who 
>>> took a rival club to 24th doesn't make much sense. It's hard to know if 
>>> there are troubles in the dressing room, and if there are, to what extent 
>>> they are the fault of TC. If I were Radrizzani, I'd be trying to find out 
>>> the answer to that question. I'd probably give TC the next few games, but 
>>> I'd also be putting a list together of managers who might be available for 
>>> the right price.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> MOT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> 
>>> 
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