Lasogga is a curious one. He did start well but then went downhill. He played
for Hamburg in the Bundesliga which is a far superior standard to the
Championship, but the last couple of games (though I disagree he is not trying
he seemed to be trying too hard yesterday) he looks poor.
Grot just looks bloody awful.
Nick
On Monday, January 8, 2018, 10:36:17 AM EST, David Smail
<dsm...@dsmail.plus.com> wrote:
I was never thinking of sacking TC over this - just frustrated that he fell
into the same hole as Monk re team selection. Had we played a full strength
team, I imagine there might have been a different result. I know the league
and promotion are everything to a club like ours, but it's not as though we had
a mid week game coming up, simply TC not wanting to risk regular first team
players and the idea that previous Cup games had gone well with this set up.
Even if we do badly in our next few league games, the season is far from a
failure if we can repeat the turn around after our shocking 7 defeats on the
trot or whatever it was - although the gap might be too large by then.
Lasogga and Grot (especially) are not up to it (I won't leave this...) I don't
blame them, I point the finger at the establishment that invited them in. May
the same process admit it's wrong doing and reverse it, quickly!
Dave
From: nat...@sky.com [mailto:nat...@sky.com]
Sent: 08 January 2018 11:21
To: David Smail; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] LU Newport
I have been getting a lot of stick today based on the performance / result
yesterday - as I told them all I am used to it - Histon, Sutton over the last
few years.
I think it is different from last year v Sutton when Monk , to try and prove a
point, picked a load of no-hope kids etc, TC has picked a team full of squad
players, albeit very few actual "first teamers"
TC has explained the selection stating that is is very much the same thinking
that got us 5 1 results v Newport & Port Vale and a winning draw v Burnley and
a decent performance at Leicester. There is some truth in this and if we had
won I think most fans would have been OK with it.
When I saw the team I was content with it - I did worry and in fact pointed out
on here- that the bench only had Saiz who could come on and change things if
the scoreline was going against us (I did not think Saiz would manage to not
touch the ball when he came on)
It is just how things are these days - the League is all important and all
teams in the top two Divisions load their team with squad players
We should have had enough quality to overcome 4th division opponents and enough
players should have been trying to impress and force their way into the first
team to have a high degree of commitment.
It all depends now on how we re-act - last time under Monk his plan backfired,
he was not given more money to strenghten the squad and the defeat seemed to
knock some of the stuffing out of the first team players, even though they did
not play, and led a lot of fans to fall out with Monk
Hopefully the performance of Lassogga and Grot will mean that TC (and Orta)
change their minds about the need for another striker - Lassogga is lazy and
Grot needs to go out on loan or play for the u23s for a bit to see if there is
an actual player in there or not - he is nowhere near first team level at this
point.
It should confirm the decision to get rid of Brothwick Jackson if we can - and
bring in the Belgian left back. It also shows that Anita is not a left back -
he was given a torrid time from Nouble(sp)
I have no idea why Pennington did not play - Everton are out of the cup so
having him cup tied does not seem to be a problem.
It should stop fans asking why Klitch is not getting a game etc
For me, I was content when I saw the team and in my ideal scenario we would get
two or three up with goals from Lassogga and 2 from Grot (to get their
confidence up) and then Clarke could come on a get a 4th (laid on by Rey !) and
things would look great - this is far from what happened and with Saiz looking
at a 6 week ban we have a lot of problems
It is still much too soon to sack TC but it does increase the pressure on him,
and a win at Ipswich will assign yesterday to the history books - a defeat
there and a bad result v Millwall and the whole season will collapse
Dave
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From: David Smail <dsm...@dsmail.plus.com>
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Cc: 'Rob Gillard' <rgill...@me.com>
Sent: Monday, 8 January 2018, 2:48
Subject: [LU] LU Newport
I am ashamed of Leeds United today - and that's strong words. Is that TC's
undiplomatic way of saying were not interested in the FA Cup? Perhaps he was
pleased in some demented way with how it all panned out and today's result
is a secret success in his book although he'd never admit it. Our passing
was awful and embarrassing and we couldn't contain Newport. I saw this
result coming a mile away but not the way it happened. All our supporters
making the trip and paying their money - what an insult to them, our club
and the competition itself. I'm waiting for an apology TC - why have you
kept so quiet after the game? Have you no thoughts, opinions or comments?
At least the likes of Villa went out to lower league competition with some
style and grace and looked like they were bothered.
As already mentioned, if we scrape the play offs all this will be forgotten
and forgiven....only to a point, but as also mentioned, defeats like this
can have a dramatic effect on form and confidence.
Grot and Lasogga truly awful - who brought them in? Ahem! Fine move bringing
on Saiz TC whose only contribution was to get sent off for spitting ( I
read) Did he touch the ball? Now a 3 match ban for a proven game changer.
Dave
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