Reality Check:
On the February 18th 1974 we lost 1-0 at home to Bristol City in the FA Cup
replay.
This began a run of 11 games where we only won twice.
Obviously that manager and that team weren't the finished article either -
good job that manager left that summer eh?
 ;-)
Cheers
Paul

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 10:43, Richard Naef <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Quite a long list, but that was only part of your homework, list other
> managers who have done more.  To help u I'll let u include those who've won
> in Scotland, which obvs shouldn't really count.
>
> Sent from my mobile
>
> ________________________________
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:33:52 AM
> To: Richard Naef
> Cc: Paul Reeve; Leeds List
> Subject: Re: [LU] On the other hand.
>
> It kind of depresses me when reality is ignored
>
>
> Argentina
>
>   *   Summer Olympics Tournament<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_Summer_Olympics> Gold
> Medal: 2004<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_2004_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_tournament
> >[11]<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-oly04-12>
>   *   Copa América<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Am%C3%A9rica>
> Runner-up: 2004<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Copa_Am%C3%A9rica
> >[9]<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-cam04-10>
>
> Newell's Old Boys
>
>   *   Primera División Argentina<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n_Argentina>: 1991
> Apertura<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990%E2%80%9391_Argentine_Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n#Torneo_Apertura>,
> 1992 Clausura<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991%E2%80%9392_Argentine_Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n#Torneo_Apertura
> >[4]<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-nobfifa-5>
>   *   Copa Libertadores<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Libertadores>:
> Runner-up 1992<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Copa_Libertadores>[4]<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-nobfifa-5>
>
> Vélez Sarsfield
>
>   *   Primera División Argentina<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n_Argentina>: 1998
> Clausura<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997%E2%80%9398_Argentine_Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n#Torneo_Clausura
> >[6]<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-velez-7>
>
> Athletic Bilbao
>
>   *   UEFA Europa League<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_League>: Runner-up 2011–12<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_UEFA_Europa_League>[28]<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-uel12-29>
>   *   Copa del Rey<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_del_Rey>:
> Runner-up 2011–12<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_Copa_del_Rey>[30]<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-cdr12-31>
>
> Individual
>
>   *   IFFHS World's Best National Coach<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFFHS_World%27s_Best_National_Coach>:
> 2001[92]<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-Former_Results-93
> >
>   *   EFL Championship Manager of the Month<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFL_Championship_Manager_of_the_Month>:
> August 2018[51]<
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk-52
> >
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 28 Feb 2019, at 10:03, Richard Naef <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> It kind of depresses me Leeds fans jumping in the press' lack of success
> trope.  He's won things, taken teams to the top and managed international
> sides.
>
> Just think who managing in England has done more? Write a list, it's very
> short.
>
> Sent from my mobile
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> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:27:21 AM
> To: Paul Reeve
> Cc: Leeds List
> Subject: Re: [LU] On the other hand.
>
> Ok, start point - Love Leeds, Want promotion, peace and love etc, but a
> few thoughts.
>
> MB clearly isn’t the finished article as a manager, otherwise he would
> have a string of titles, cups etc in his cv. He is a master tactician,
> leaves no stone unturned etc, and has utterly transformed a set of in the
> main average players into a cohesive force. In itself that is astonishing,
> and what he has created at Leeds is equally amazing. But the fact remains
> that his record on delivering success isn’t that hot. That is why all us
> armchair managers, as well as tv pundits/experts etc, highlight the need
> for better quality and more players. I got sick to death of pundits saying
> we couldn’t last the season playing this style of footie, but am worried
> they may be right. Nothing I say will change anything, but I hope MB will
> stay another year, whether we’re in the Prem/Championship, and from
> somewhere comes an investor who has enough money to do the job properly.
>
> I thought the QPR game was a must win game, but not necessarily - however,
> anything other than 3 points against West Brom would not be good. In a
> division where anyone can beat anyone, I hope Norwich/Sheff Utd come a
> cropper, but we’re now in the must-win camp to take advantage.
>
> Finally, if we do go up, do you think MB will stay loyal to this group of
> players? Now that’s something to chew on :-)
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 27 Feb 2019, at 21:09, Paul Reeve via Leedslist <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Couldn’t agree more with you Nick, everyone in the ground is a manager,
> that along with everyone in the pub and them in their own front room, never
> gonna change that.
> > We are all fans that care about the club and deep down want to put it
> right, reality is that we have one of the best managers in the world and
> bottom line is he knows better than us. Everyone has got valid points, I’m
> aware of that, but this season has been mostly a joy to be a Leeds fan, on
> and off the field,  I just hope that MB and Radz will stay on and see the
> job through.
> > Always ups and and downs!
> >
> > Keep the faith
> > MOT
> >
> >
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